Discussion: Report: France Arrests Comedian For Facebook Post On Paris Gunman

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Guess the French havenā€™t learned what freedom of speech really meansā€¦

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ā€˜Apologist for terrorismā€™? Really?

He may be an asshole but he didnā€™t make any threats and heā€™s free to say whatever asshole thing he wants to say.

The French better be careful they are not going the way of Israel - the oppressed becoming the oppressor by using terrorism as an excuse.

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Indeed ā€“ according to the AP:

ā€œIn a city still shaken after deadly Islamic terror attacks, authorities said 54 people had been detained for defending or glorifying terrorism.ā€

Just wow.

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Israel is the best example you could think of? Israel has free speech protections. How about Egypt? Thatā€™s a country where you can get arrested for saying something the government doesnā€™t like.

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Apparently you can in France also. What exactly is your point?

This is typically used to deflect any criticism, even minor, about Israel. Israel treats Palestinians poorly. What about Syria? Syria tortures itā€™s own peopleā€¦

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Free speech does not include the right to utter threats in any country. "I feel like a terroristā€™ comes damn close.

This is dangerous territory. I am sure that threats have been written and spoken against Muslims in France. Will those be prosecuted? This guy is a jackass but being a jackass is not (or should not be) a criminal offense. This kind of overreaction will just give the disgruntled Muslim minority the argument that ā€˜you can offend Muslims but no Jewsā€™. The French should start the deportation of non-citizen Muslims NOW. Replace them with real immigrants (who WANT to be French) from their former colonies.

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ā€œTonight, as far as Iā€™m concerned, I feel like Charlie Coulibaly,ā€

Heā€™s saying that as a Muslim, he is being lumped in with the terrorists. As white non-immigrant French are ā€œCharlieā€.

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And this isnā€™t an overreaction? Rounding people up an throwing them out of the country based on their religion?

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Europe has a history of speech turning into murder. It just happened again last week. Itā€™s one thing for the speakers to die, itā€™s anther thing for innocents to die. Go over to France and dress up like a religious Jew and then scream about the rights of people to make light of genocide in a way likely to incite other to kill and then Iā€™ll take you seriously.

Maybe it was a good idea for the US to not be involved in the Paris rally after allā€¦ I mean, this makes it seem more like an anti-Islam rally than a free speech one.

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Je suisā€¦ah, forget it.

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The Kouachi brothers were French nationals whose parents were immigrants from the former French colony of Algiers.

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ā€œTonight, as far as Iā€™m concerned, I feel like Charlie Coulibaly,ā€

He feels dead? Iā€™m confused.

I do feel people who say the attack as a great thing, etc., should be detained, questioned, and checked out for internet postings, etc. But in this specific case, Iā€™m confused on exactly what his statement means, there is no context shown.

On the other hand I researched him, and some of his viewpoints and statements are absurd and hateful. So too bad a-hole. Youā€™ll get over it.

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ā€œFree speechā€ is unfortunately not a universal concept or right.

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France will overreact just like we did post 9-11. Guaranteed.

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In the other article they quote him having said that:

So it sounds like he was combining the two names as a shorter way of expressing that sentiment.

Possibly. If I say that I feel like Charlie Manson or, better, Timothy McVeigh, youā€™d have to have a lot of context to convince anyone that I just meant I was a redneck clinging to my guns and Bible.

Iā€™m sure this question is rhetorical, but that kind of explicitly fascist attitude should be given the courtesy. It certainly wouldnā€™t had he wrote:

ā€œThe French should start the deportation of non-citizen Jews NOW. Replace them with real immigrants (who WANT to be French) from their former colonies.ā€

ā€œReligion=/=Raceā€ I know. Not explicitly, but this attitude leads to policies that will repress just about any Frenchman of non-white descent.

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