SI’I MO’O KU-MUHK
As the locals might say.
There will be no wall.
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During the Bush administration we already built a wall along 2/3s of the border with Mexico. We already know fairly accurately what it will cost to build any new additions to what already exists. It is pretty tough for Trump and his republicans in congress to blow some about the costs involved. And, once the new addition to the wall is done, (if they are ever dumb enough to complete it) it won’t represent any more of a challenge for smugglers to overcome than the existing wall.
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I live here too - we will not allow the wall to be built on their land.
Period.
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4: My swimming pool wall ( San Berdoo Cali 1983-92) Massive Failure. Although my kids stayed in, the neighbors invaded with regularity and my dog leapt over it and raped and pillaged the local female dogs.
Gang bangers with spray paint eventually rendered my wall useless and a public nuisance not to mention the upkeep : )
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Canada may build a wall and make the US pay for it, as refugees flood into Canada.http://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/desperate-journey-refugee-crossing-canada-us
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The eminent domain court cases will stretch on into the next several decades. How much power does the Tohono Odom nation have in their promise to never allow a barrier to be built across their 75 miles of the border south and west of Tucson darrtown?
Heh heh. Wish the band played louder. (“Banned” AUS commercial, corrected for linking protocol)
Rep Rokita said today on Stephanie Ruhle $20B was not a big deal compared to total budget and Trump won, so up to Congress to push his agenda. This with millions below poverty line, healthcare in jeopardy, cutting Planned Parenthood, trying to gut Medicare, SS, etc.
Hopefully Senate will be more critical of huge costs but I’m running out of optimism for any of these cowards to do anything with electorate in mind.
And don’t forget the few billions a year it will take to maintain the wall. This isn’t a “built it once and never look at it again project.” It will be a perennial drain on the budget.
Maybe we can start a new export business in fashionable dog collar necklaces (Ivanka? Melania?) but the ones going to Mexico secretly carry a shock device…
Thanks for posting that. Just asked darrtown downthread how much power the tribe has to block the feds from claiming their land. Am just now reading the book they put together about the difficulty of members living in Mexico but born in America and vice versa traveling back and forth. Doesn’t sound like they want even more restrictions put on their ancient ability to travel back and forth across and artificial border.
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There is a barbed wire fence in places on the Tohono O’Odham Nation but mostly just concrete markers with nothing else to mark the line beyond a trail. At least that is what I recall from years ago. O’Odham ancestral land southwest of Tucson is divided roughly in half by the border. There’s more due south of Tucson as well but that’s all within the US. They have always maintained they want no barrier and there very well may be a treaty about exactly this. But then we all know how the Federal government has treated indigenous people.
Lemme get back to this point…
OK, here is some context:
Treaties in 1848 and 1854 ended up dividing O’Odham land. To the natural detriment of their culture which of course the dominant people didn’t give 2 shits about.
More recently, as of May last year, the Nation does not want the Border patrol on their Reservation at all and they’re angry.
Ironically there are at least 2 large casinos the nation operates so they’re separating rubes from their greenbacks and then the tribe uses the income for many different internal operations for themselves, not the least of with is upkeep of the Mission San Xavier del Bac which to me is the loveliest building in all of the Southwest. I know the building intimately having been in the towers, on the roof and the back rooms.
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For comparison, check the SF-Okland Bay Bridge construction estimates vs final cost and time to completion.
Thanks for the link. May San Pancho be with them as they resist trump.
Graffiti removal would provide lifetime employment for thousands…
What a flipping waste of money. We could put a portion of that money into high speed train system. Jobs. We could help with infrastructure in all states. Jobs. Give money to education. Jobs. More money for the state and federal agencies that are generally very functional. Jobs. Put money into improving the medical system in this country. Jobs. Renewable energy. Jobs.
That’s okay. Trump will get the cost down by stiffing the contractors and deporting the workers before they’re paid.
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I’ll bet right now it doesn’t get done for less than $45 billion.
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I know some trump voters who would never admit they made a mistake voting for him. They are more ego than common sense reality.