Discussion: Report: Border Wall To Cost Billions More Than Trump Said, Per DHS Internal Memo

Report: Border Wall To Cost Billions More Than Trump Said, Per DHS Internal Memo

Because of course it will. Trump pulls his never-ending supply of alt-facts out of his ass. For me, no need to analyze any further. No mistakes on his part, no failing to account for contingencies. Just a never ending supply of “colon facts”.

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Reuters reported that much of the cost disparity came from the expense of buying private land necessary for the wall’s construction, and the cost of complying with the International Boundary and Water Commission, a pact between the two nations over shared waters.

Well, there you go - Trump is not going to comply with any sort of agreement he did not make, nor, like someone pointed out above about (not) paying contractors would anyone be compensated for their land through eminent domain.

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Does this estimate include the “see-through” parts of the wall? I’ve heard that see-through concrete blocks are very expensive. But, hey, cost doesn’t matter when the Mexicans are going to pay for it - eventually, somehow, in secret ways that Trump will figure out and get a deal on. Right?

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Since the Asshole-elect couldn’t find his ass with both hands, I’m not surprised that he missed the number by a yuge amount. Sad.

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21.6 billion on the wall, 800 billion over ten years by repealing the taxes funding the ACA, pretty soon you’re talking real money. Starve the beast is what they call it. Balloon the deficit so we can’t afford those leftist programs and safety nets.
The CRFB link just gives the 350 billion cost of repealing the ACA over ten years without replacing it. What they are going to replace it with is going to cost more money

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“Reactionary Keynesianism”

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Could we just make a deal with him? Give him the $20 billion to get out and take Pence and his cabinet with him. Even at double the price, it would be worth it.

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AND…don’t forget the never ending maintence costs, especially to those hard to reach places. :wink:

So its not just a huge up front cost, it signs America on to billions of dollar in perpetuity just to massage his ego

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“Reuters reported that much of the cost disparity came from the expense of buying private land necessary for the wall’s construction”

This is what I do…represent landowners whose land gets taken. I’d be drooling over this haha (as they say: “god bless the man who sued my client”). They ALWAYS get ripped off. It’s how the politicians shield themselves on costs. They underestimate the eminent domain costs so they can present a project cost to the public that is grossly underestimated, and that way they can buid the political will for the project. Then, after we sue them silly and papers start reporting things like, for example, the “Big Dig” project’s cost overruns, they shrug and blame “trial lawyers” and blabber shit like “well, whatcha gonna do…juries are crazy and unpredictable.” Voila…blame shifted.

It’s going to be a real case of “careful what you wish for” when it comes to the redneck methbillies living along the border, who voted for Trump to keep out the browns, when they lose several acres and get a tiny “pro tanto” check and then get to spend tens of thousands of dollars on attorneys and experts to prove that the fair market value was much higher than the gov’t says it is. The backlash will be a cosmic schadenfreude moment.

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And just watch what happens to the cost estimate when they get the units of measurement right!

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There’s going to be hell to pay!

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They also need to hire armed guards to patrol the entire thing so that nobody goes over or under it. Or arm it with motion detecting Death Star lasers. This whole idea is absurd.

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The toughest part is going to be figuring out which way the barbed wire on top should be facing.

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Add in gooper graft, White House Inc.- a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump Enterprises-skim, a billion minimum in lawsuits, and we’re talking 30-35 billion. Even in DC that’s a serious number.

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As I keep pointing out, Ryan is counting on that, particularly with regards to Medicare, so it becomes the next “emergency” that can only be saved by getting rid of it. Medicaid of course is destroyed during the repeal process via “block grants”.

But yes, the GOP wants to immediately repeal the taxes in Obamacare, so there will be no money available to implement any replacement plan. And we all know there is no way that republicans would even consider raising taxes to implement any new plan.

Its an entirely predictable series of events…Repeal ACA first…declare Medicare emergency and privatize it, then say after all of that, there simply isn’t any money available for healthcare sorry. Which is why this wall nonsense is precisely what Ryan does not want to spend any time on.

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But what if it were a big solar collector?

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To a certain extent, this discussion is moot. If it were u to Rump, we’d have a problem. If it’s up to Congress, forget it. They won’t spend more than necessary on the “wall” which is really nothing more than a fence.

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With all his vast business connections any projections of how much Trump profits from this?

I mean with Ivanka’s clothing line tanking he’s gotta make up for it somehow.

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More of those infrastructure jobs!

(How much will it cost for the wall if all of the materials used to build it are made in the good ol’ US of A? And how much will it cost if all the workers are paid prevailing wages?)

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Wow, Mexico’s gonna be pissed when they get the bill …

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