Discussion: Rachel Maddow: Fox 'Rigged' GOP Debate By Breaking Own Entry Rules

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It’s not particularly effective to rig a system in a way that delivers the exact same result as an unrigged system.

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Anyone surprised, it has bothered me tremendously that a totally biased,for profit corporation that probably has a financial stake in way things turn out has so much power over who gets national exposure,or not. It seems like the Federal Election Commission should get involved.

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Exactly.

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In a way, this justifies what I’ve been saying all along. If it turns out that JEB is just too much the King of Duh, the Rethug “powers that be” may just begin to elevate Kasich to the lead role. It may not be a very obvious push but since they own their own propaganda organ (Fox Noise), it won’t be too hard to show their polling shows Kasich taking a strong lead in their polls. After a while, it may become common knowledge that Kasich is now the front runner.

I’m not saying this WILL happen. I’m just pointing out the obvious: they don’t really have any other options: JEB and Kasich are the only ones who are even remotely close to “presidential” material.

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Look, for me, all this means is we still have the same number of clowns in the center ring and the same number of clowns in the right ring of the circus that will be the forum (I refuse to call it a debate).

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It is a dumb system anyway to be honest. Given the margin of error some of these guys could be all over the place in terms of their real polling number. Even averaging would only help somewhat.

It was always going to be who they wanted and who they would have no choice in taking. Sounds to me that they took almost all the nuts. I am not a fan of any of them, but a guy like Kaisich at least does not come off like a nut. He is one, but he is not as clear about it as the others are.

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Foxy News stranglehold on the Presidential Election cycle is very scary. They are more than happy to rig and rejigger the rules to suit their owners’ whims.

RE: “Fox News announced Tuesday night that the channel disregarded the NBC/WSJ poll ‘because it did not meet our criterion that the poll read the names of each Republican candidate in the vote question.’”

That’s reasonable. Fox News couldn’t say which polls they’d use in advance without knowing which pollsters would read all the candidates’ names to the person being questioned.

There are a zillion good reasons to criticize Fox News but this isn’t one of them.

And it’s also clear that this whole debate process has gone south for the RNC Chair who has now been reduced to that of PR Coordinator. Up until this time, i think the RNC has believed that they could control the Crazy. (The same way the Cheney Administration believed they could create their own reality). I don’t think it really occurred to them that a confluence of events of derp singularity could create ITS own reality called the GOP base. That just won’t do in the minds of the FOX powers that be.

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Right after Trump made his comments about Mexican rapists, I opined here that the optics and repercussions with Hispanics would be bad enough that the RNC and Fox would rejigger the rules to exclude Trump. After he made his comments about McCain, I was even more convinced that Trump would be excluded, because what political party would be so insane as to provide Trump with a platform to spew more ridiculous argle-bargle about a recent GOP Presidential candidate and military veteran?

Boy, was I wrong. Even as cynical as I am about the Republican Party and the GOP base, I didn’t think that Trump’s popularity would persist, let alone increase dramatically. The fact that there wasn’t near-universal condemnation by rank-and-file Republicans of Trump’s McCain comments is as strong an indicator as anything else that the GOP base is foaming-at-the-mouth-bug-fuck crazy. A Trump-Palin ticket would be the perfect vehicle to express its unhinged ignorant bile.

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The baggers are in yer face “fuck y’all” types who eat this shit up with a spoon. I’m not surprised at all.

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And it’s also clear that this whole debate process has gone south for the RNC Chair who has now been reduced to that of PR Coordinator.

One of the unintended consequences (unintended in the minds of Republican Party officials, that is) of Citizens United is that by opening up the spigots for the mind-boggling amounts of cash that the small number of billionaires are eager to dump directly into Republican campaigns, the fund-raising activities of the RNC have been rendered largely irrelevant and superfluous. And once that’s happened, the importance of the official party organization is significantly reduced to the point you aptly describe, where Priebus now has as much influence and power over his wealthy charges as a substitute teacher at an exclusive private school does on the last day before summer break.

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The FEC is a toothless, impotent puppy with no effective power to change the way things are. (Money is in charge.) Even when they investigate and issue a report, 2 years have gone by and a new political regime ignores whatever it is they have to say. The FEC was designed for results like this.

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I love Maddow, but this isn’t really much of a story.

The “politically-fatal consequences” line was unvarnished hyperbole. She’s more astute than that.

Attacking Fox News for something this minor diminishes the impact of her style when dealing with more substantial issues.

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Question and I am serious: Just how could ANY poll read all the names as it seems every other day another name is added. Does not changing the question mid survey invalidate all that went before.

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I keep waiting for his job to be outsourced to a Chinese PR firm.

Firstm a word about your sponsor of the upcoming debate!

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FOX News owns the media exposure required to get nominated, and Koch Industries owns all the Data the campaigns MUST use to plan and execute their election strategies.
The RNC had to get on their knees and beg Koch to allow them to use the RNC’s own voter data to plan the campaigns. Koch political arms bought all that data over the last few years and now has a stranglehold on ALL the voter data for Conservative campaigns. If that isn’t scary, I don’t know what is.
The Fascists are just ONE PRESIDENT away from total domination of the entire US Political/Court/Military system.

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Republicans have been rigging the system ever since Bush vs Gore. It’s obvious that the Top 1% want Kaisch to get more exposure. Bush is likely to screw the pooch, if he hasn’t already; so they want another “electable” candidate ready.

Unfortunately, it’s way too late in the game to put Kaisch forward. The other eight candidates on that stage have poisoned the waters for any GOP nominee. And they and the bottom tier have an unlimited amount of money available and the press at their disposal to continue to poison the waters for the GOP ever after the convention which is still more than a year away.

Actually, pushing Perry off the stage is just putting a huge target on Kaisch’s back. You don’t do that to a conservative without there being repercussions. The whole field will be circling the new Establishment darling. The Far Right reacts like a pack of mad dogs when it feels challenged.

If Murdock isn’t careful, he’s going to alienate the only viewers who bother to tune into Faux News.

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