All the polls in question were conducted very recently. Gilmore may not have been included in every one, but the other 16 had already announced prior to these polls.
Itâs a real dilemma for the GOP powers that be; how to stop Trump without angering the parts of the GOP that want someone just like him. Itâs an interesting question whether the base will put up with another weak-tea faux-moderate nominee (Jeb!, Walker or Kasich) being shoved down their throats. Pardon me while I make some more popcorn.
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Come on, the small ones (Little Lindsey, Rick and Rick, Cute Carly âŚ) will get a chance at the âChildrenâs Tableâ at 5 PM, which will fit well with at lot of the demographic and give an entertaining introduction to the grown-ups debate after bedtimeâŚ
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Who is Gilmore? Is he the character Adam Sandberg played in that golf spoof?
I donât think the RNC realizes just how pissed off their base was over the McCain and Romney debacles. In a way, the GOP Establishment lucked out that the Dems put up a black man. It distracted the Far Right from the fact that they were being manipulated.
From the way so many Republicans have entered the race (and are still entering the race) you get the idea that nobody is in charge any longer. Trump sure saw the opportunity.
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This was apparently the Roger Ailes primary. He has been the real boss of the Republican party for years, and now he gets to choose the President.
She spent about 10 minutes on a story that deserved 20 seconds, considering that if theyâd used the NBC/WSJ poll the results would have been the same. RM is usually awesome, but sometimes she comes off as a bit unhinged.
On the other hand, I quite enjoyed it on the Chris Hayes show last night when Ted Cruzâs spox claimed that the GOP candidates relegated to the undercard debate shouldnât complain too much b/c 5pm on the East Coast is prime time on the West CoastâŚ#MathIsHard
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I run hot hot and cold with Maddow. When sheâs ON, sheâs brilliant, but her tendency toward circumlocution has always irritated. And lately, sheâs becoming a little âbreathlessâ. I start to talk to the TV: for Godâs sake get to the point Rachael! In This case, I agree with you. Sure the NBC/WSJ showed better results for Mr. Smart Glasses, but this was just one poll result. The same NBC/WSJ poll run a day or two later could have reversed the numbers for Kasich and Perry yet again and so forth. Sampling errors may simply be creating a lot of ânoiseâ around the likelihood estimators for these lesser candidates on the extreme right [no pun] of the distribution curve.
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Amen. Came to say same. Not a Fox fan, but all they did was use the next most recent poll, that gives the same net result with the only difference is that the poll they skipped would on its face give some cognitive dissonance with the result. The poll they used, while offering no net difference, agreed on its face with their selection.
Not a story. False outrage should be left to the idiots following Fox, it is below her audience to gin this up.
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Yep. I think youâre completely on the money when you say that the base is being manipulated. Before, the manipulations could be âcouchedâ/justified in some way or used as the all-important end goal (get rid of the Black guy in the White House!). But now, itâs pretty clear that the base doesnât want an establishment candidate and, if one is pushed onto them, they probably wonât go along with the program. Why not?
They donât feel that have to.
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In the end, picking the top 10 for this debate is like another FOX show, American Idol. The judges can keep the suspense as to which of the contestants will be 12th and on the show or 13th and just misses. But in the end, it really has no effect.
Inevitably, the good looking WGWG (white guy with guitar) is gonna win anyways.
Except in this case WGWG = White Guy Was Governor.
And just like Idol, in 3 or 4 years, weâll forget who the contest winner ever was.
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FOX has been pushing the xenophobic, illegals are the worst thing ever line for years. Their ideology trumps personalities and Trump is their ideal candidate.
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Which is why in the long term Fox is detrimental to the national election prospects of the GOP, and in those states with quickly increasing minority populations as well. I believe a small portion of the GOP leadership understands this, but those people have no power base within the party any longer. The unhinged âidâ of the base is now running the show.
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What did she expect? This is the culmination of the FOX project. The takeover of the Republican party by FOX and turning it over to RodgerâŚan ex political operative. What did Maddow expect?
If you keep going East on I 10 you are eventually going to be in Jacksonville Florida. If you hopped on to 10 in LAâŚdrove through PhoenixâŚthen San AntonioâŚthen MobileâŚand kept going most folks would guess Jax is where you are headed. Same for FOX. It left LA 10 years ago and went through Mobile in the last election. It made it to Jax for this oneâŚit owns the GOP.
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I donât know if you saw this video of a Fox & Friends focus group getting pissy with each other over Donald Trump. Itâs hilarious and sad simultaneously. Sad because Fox News creates these peopleâs reality which makes them immune to carefully researched facts and logic.
If Fox News controls the Republican political process then they control half the country.
https://amp.twimg.com/v/7cb990c8-49b0-433a-b936-55e78b48df3d
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The crazy thing is that Walker is just the sort of actual politician that the GOP base would be very happy withâheâs a semi-fascist small-time thug whose Democrat/union/educator-punching in Wisconsin is exactly what the loons crave. I still believe that Snotty will be the nominee, and if heâs smart heâll avoid openly criticizing Trump so he can pick up some of his support if/when The Donald starts to crash and burn.
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This is why I donât watch Rachel very much anymore. Sheâs had moments of âfaux outrageâ for a few years now, in my opinion. She provides excellent election cycle coverage and in-depth single-issue reporting, but she tries too hard at times to fill slow news days. The Fox debate is just a TV show. Fox may or may not be rigging it to justify some reasoning, but in the end itâs just a TV show. Iâm hoping it becomes a sitcom.
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Personally, I think the Republican Clown Car meme should be replaced with a Republican Centipede meme. Theyâre all assholes, they all talk shit, and every one eats-up the othersâ shit.
âHold up. Here it is right here: âby clicking Agree, you are also acknowledging that Fox may sew your mouth to the butthole of another Republican candidate. Fox and its subsidiaries may also, if necessary, sew yet another personâs mouth onto your butthole, making you a being that shares one gastral tract.â
John Ellis Butters: âHmmm, Iâm gonna click onnn⌠Agree!â
You arenât by yourself. No one ever thought it would go this far - and now heâs wooing Sarah Palin for what I donât know but it doesnât get any more insane than this. I know that there is evidence that one becomes more conservative as they get older, but this guy went from a pretty liberal guy to this right wing conservative and then he makes statements that even contradict that - Itâs a phenomenon
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She can harangue on an issue for sure and this is certainly one of them. I personally donât feel the same disgust with Fox doing what itâs doing - to me it is just further evidence to point to the fact that the republican party is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fox News. Having said that, she has an excellent news program and she does great interviews and asks great questions
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