Discussion: Poll: Majority of Dem Voters Want Congress To Block Trump At All Costs

Hmmmmmmmm…obstruct. Make sure Trump is a half-term ( or less) prez.

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It’s working too… c…r…a…c…k…i…n…g ----

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The single most important thing we want to achieve is for PeePee to be a less-than-one-term president. Take that, Turtle.

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Good publicity for Nordstrom.

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We have been handed a golden opportunity here - and we are using it. The Democrats in Congress finally seem to be understanding that you do not negotiate with terrorists - and that when the GOP broke all the rules, they threw out the game book (that they so desperately want back). Let them whine about Democrats “not working with them,” and not giving anyone a chance. That deserves a laughing fit. If this is how they want to play, have at it. No one - NO ONE - believes the Democrats started this, contrary to the lies they might spew for the public.

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Trump does his crazy with French.

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The whole world is on the quie vive on the qt, discussing what to do about this lout.

President Donald Trump spent much of a recent phone call with French President Francois Hollande veering off into rants about the U.S. getting shaken down by other countries, according to a senior official with knowledge of the call, creating an awkward interaction with a critical U.S. ally.

First reaction – face palm.
Second reaction – A colander and salad.

@inversion

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As a nation we have to realize a terrible mistake was made and no matter the circumstances surrounding that mistake a correction must be made for the continuing health of the nation.
The ongoing, bashful tolerance of other ‘leaders’ not only makes America look ridiculous before the world it is eating away at the faith of the people who are the nation.
I understand these largely corrupt placeholders fear for the safety of their vacation homes and cushy lifestyles but hard decisions have to be made and the elected and oath-sworn must make them before this fool does something that cannot be undone.

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Just 34 percent said Democratic lawmakers should work with the White House to “get things done.”

Personally, I’d be very interested to know WHERE this 34% lives in the country. The reason is because these are the people who are going to be leaning on their Senators to go along to get along. I’m guessing these are predominately in Red states which might not be defendable anyway.

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Republicans will wail this is unprecedented and Democrats are unwilling to give Trump a fair hearing at the beginning of his Presidency.


During a lengthy discussion, the senior GOP members worked out a plan to repeatedly block Obama over the coming four years to try to ensure he would not be re-elected.

In his book, Draper opens with the heady atmosphere in Washington on the days running up to the inauguration and the day itself, which attracted 1.8 million to the mall to witness Obama being sworn in as America's first black president.

Those numbers contributed to a growing sense of unease among Republicans as much the defeat in the White House race the previous November. The 15 Republicans were in a sombre mood as they gathered at the Caucus Room in Washington, an upscale restaurant where a New York strip steak costs $51.

Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future – and failed – presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.

The dinner table was set in a square at Luntz's request so everyone could see one another and talk freely. The session lasted four hours and by the end the sombre mood had lifted: they had conceived a plan. They would take back the House in November 2010, which they did, and use it as a spear to mortally wound Obama in 2011 and take back the Senate and White House in 2012, Draper writes.

***"If you act like you're the minority, you're going to stay in the minority," said Keven McCarthy, quoted by Draper. "We've gotta challenge them on every single bill and challenge them on every single campaign."***

The Republicans have done that, bringing Washington to a near standstill several times during Obama's first term over debt and other issues.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/03/The-Conspiracy-to-Commit-Legislative-Constipation
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!!!

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3am call to Flynn re macroeconomic question and other scary shit.

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From the same POLITICO story:

At one point, Trump declared that the French can continue protecting NATO, but that the U.S. “wants our money back,” the official said, adding that Trump seemed to be “obsessing over money."

“It was a difficult conversation, because he talks like he’s speaking publicly,” the official said. “It’s not the usual way heads of state speak to each other. He speaks with slogans and the conversation was not completely organized.”

Rump is SO off the rails, he speaks to heads of state exactly as if they were contractors for whom he’s decided to stiff. According to the article, the only one that Rump has gotten along with so far, is the Czech President. Gee, I wonder why… :smirk:

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You know, as far as we can figure from the Politico story, that rant didn’t seem to include his boasting about the inauguration crowd size, unlike his call with Nieto the other day… progress? :expressionless: :neutral_face:

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Shumer, why the hell would you vote against Chao as secretary of transportation, a relative meaningless position, but go ahead and vote to confirm Mike Pompeo. He’s as odious as they come. He would go along with anything Bannon and Trump suggest.Yeah, you were not the only one, the following Democrats voted to confirm him.
Joe Donnelly of Indiana
Dianne Feinstein of California
Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire
Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota
Tim Kaine of Virginia
Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota
Joe Manchin of West Virginia
Claire McCaskill of Missouri
Jack Reed of Rhode Island
Brian Schatz of Hawaii
Chuck Schumer of New York
Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire
Mark Warner of Virginia
Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island

The red state Democrats I can understand, not the rest. How in the hell could a no vote to confirm Pompeo hurt you with your base more than a yes vote?
Chuck’s words on working with Trump: “the party that’s seen as obstructionist is going to pay a price in 2018.”
I wonder what kind of drugs he’s been on since 2010? Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-11-09/at-times-trump-may-tap-unlikely-ally-in-congress-chuck-schumer
Yeah, I have issues with Schumer and I may be too biased and jaded. I will continue to be a skeptic. I have no doubt Gorsuch will be confirmed. Chuck may go either way, but he’ll make sure at least nine other Democrats will vote for him if he doesn’t.

Like I said, its not even new stuff (information/allegations/arguments) coming from these guys, but its essentially the the same stuff from last cycle.

Somewhat o/t

yeah

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Is that even new stuff. :expressionless:

eta: but yeah it scares the crap outta me

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I don’t believe trump* has the mental capacity to negotiate in good faith. Trust him at your peril.