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Ah, that magical 40ish%
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As we should! When the car you buy is a lemon do you blame the mechanic that tried to fix it or the manufacturer?
It’s nice to learn that six years of this disingenuous “Obama’s war” meme by Foxbots and deaf, dumb and blind GOTPers has not resulted in their desired dumbing down of a majority of Americans.
And speaking of the current situation in Iraq…
Cheney and Chalabi’s resurgence: Iraq saga’s worst actors are back to annoy everyone
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So having Cheney, Wolfowitz, Bill Kristol, et al on all the talk shows didn’t help people forget who really created this cluster***k in the first place? Maybe the public is smarter than they think.
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Good to know that 51% of Americans are smarter than Bush, Cheney, Palin, Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, McCain, and Bill bullsh*t Kristol.
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The ongoing trouble in Iraq is the 'Shrub giving us the bird, over and over and over and over and over…
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Of course among the crossover - 76% believe militants will take over, 61% believe Bush was wrong…but only 51% blame Bush - there is a huge disconnect. Because prior to Bush’s invasion, there were no terrorists in Iraq. I guess that concept is too complex for them to connect the dots.
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Just looking at the cover photo for this article, it makes me wonder where the money and munitions are coming in for the rebels? Perhaps the US can focus on staunching the flow of supplies to the rebels instead of musing on the need for direct intervention.
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40% Don’t think invading Iraq was a bad idea?
I fear for this country.
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*“The neoconservative pundit Bill Kristol, a vocal cheerleader of the war, said last month that Obama could rally the country to get behind yet another military intervention in Iraq, but the Quinnipiac poll said otherwise.” When has Krystal been right about anything?
They obviously have had no skin in the war-games…
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Americans have a long history of knowing very little and caring even less about foreign policy. I’m guessing that most of the people who disapprove of Obama’s “handling” of Iraq either disapprove of everything Obama does or they don’t like the fact that he got involved at all. Sending a few hundred special forces was too much for most Americans.
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61% thought going to war with Iraq was a bad idea. It doesn’t say how many thought it was a good idea but I’m guessing there were a lot of people who said they didn’t know. Keep in mind, a lot of people who behind the war in the beginning might have changed their minds but aren’t yet open to admitting it. Sometimes “I don’t know” really means “I don’t want to talk about it”.
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On Up With Steve Kornacki yesterday there was a discussion of recent polling showing Obama was less popular than bush because. . . who knows, but they were probably people easily swayed by day to day events and not long term issues. The panelists were a presidential historian and a Democratic political operative who discussed how fickle the public is and how informed they are by what the other side relentlessly puts out. There is nothing bush can do to rehabilitate himself, and BHO’s greatness is still being measured.
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Huge demonstrations in big American cities, e.g. San Francisco where I live, did nothing to dissuade bush from having a war on his terms, facts be damned…
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He has the dishonor of being the most protested individual in the history of mankind.
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Maybe some of you find solace in these numbers. I don’t. I find it depressing that such a large part of our society, even if they are a substantial minority, are so fucking stupid.
And more of them think W was better on foreign policy. Ponder that for a moment.
FUCK YOU MEDIA!
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Obama is Truman. Truman was vilified whilst in office, even as he quietly and competently plowed ahead and improved the nation. In time, after the racism and GOP water-carrying of the MSM fades out, the record will stand on its own.
Bin Laden dead. GM alive. Economic catastrophe averted. Record duration of private sector job growth. Greatly lowered unemployment. Record stock market performance. Real health insurance for real Americans. Wars ended. Energy independence. Meaningful action on climate change. Et cetera, ad nauseum.
The GOP will be remembered for what: Fighting against all of that?
Frankly, if the GOP were embodied in a living creature, I’d hunt it down and eradicate it for the good of the planet. The GOP is a fucking parasite, a disease.
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So, is the photo of an open-carry demonstration in Texas or Iraq?
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Hard to tell. Fundamentalist zealots are all the same inside.
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