Discussion: Parents Of Alleged CA Synagogue Shooter Condemn Son In Scathing Statement

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Faux Derangement Syndrome?

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They have a lot to answer for right NOW. Many Nazi’s were punished for their crimes after the war was over. We are in a different kind of war now and people who are involved in deadly anti-social behavior should be punished now. tRUMP’s vile intemperate rants probably give many impressionable people the idea that bad behavior is somehow serving their country. There have always been a lot of hate-driven actions and movements here and in other countries but they have really been amped up in the last year or so. Having a POTUS who brays out intermperate language at his rallies to cheering crowds is a brand new thing. His rants are getting more unhinged and we are seeing more unhinged behavior in the populace.

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Exactly.

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I’m sure Junior, Ivanka and Eric will evolve and become humbled, truthful and honorable human beings when this reign of terror (Daddy’s presidency) is over.

(How do you type in that snark thing?)

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I like your hypothesis. I remember the pamphlets that were the RW social media of their day. Those pamphlets might have had a half life of 4-5 persons. Now, that pamphlet’s message, however irrational, gets fire hosed to thousands or more. Enough against the wall and some of it sticks.
I’m still stunned that 3 of my nephews voted Trump. Now, I talk to them only if I cannot avoid it.
None have ever been laid off from some factory job. All have enjoyed good paying jobs and stay at home wives and a nice home. So that holds the economic factor constant in their case. Over the past, say, 20 years I’ve heard them say goofy things that could only have come from the internet. And that’s more support for your hypothesis. One big difference: My wife, my kids and I have all enjoyed broad educations beyond high school Their educations post high school have been of the technical, vocational variety.

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From the church’s website - a lot of othering going on here…

  1. Does your church support missions to the Jews?

First, you may be asking, does our church support mission agencies to Jews? To my knowledge, our church does not offer such support. However, you may be asking, does your church support the idea that missions should be directed to the Jews? To this question, I would answer, yes. We believe that all outside of Christ need to have the gospel preached to them.

On the other hand, you may be asking, does your church have a mission work to the Jews? As early as 1938, the Orthodox Presbyterian Church discussed the matter of mission to the Jews. At one point in our history, our Committee on Home Missions and Church Extension supported a man working with Jewish immigrants. By 1978, however, all of that ceased.

It’s not that the Orthodox Presbyterian Church is against reaching out to Jews. However, it has been our consistent encouragement to each local church to carry out its evangelistic responsibility, which includes mission to the Jews.

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Spelling is important here: empathetic not emphatic. The OrangeHorror is certainly emphatic but totally lacks empathy.

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I think the word we want is “pathetic.”

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Lot of assumptions and presumptions here. You know they are stuck to TV and phones? Why must they have known?

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Well said.

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Where did he get the weapon? Because AR-15s really are not motivated by love.

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I’m really sorry to hear that. I have a dear friend who’s early 20s son went to the dark side.

It’s heartbreaking.

Something to consider -

Back in the late 70s I think my older bro for a period of time (maybe 3 months? 6 months?) subscribed to “The Spotlight”. Given circumstances at the time and being impressionable I ate it up.

I eventually go to college, life experiences, etc. and so more liberal now and realize how abhorrent it was and more importantly why I was susceptible “infection”.

That’s background.

  1. The Spotlight was fringe at the time. Starting in the late 2000s (basically Obama’s election) and accelerated with 2016 campaign the fringe went mainstream.

    So propaganda.

  2. There’s growing belief that SM has been used to target people who like I was susceptible and pump more finely tuned propaganda to them to further radicalize.

(One reason I celebrate NRA’s implosion this weekend beyond schadenfreude is because they’ve been one of the major contributors to politicians and propaganda. Something may fill the void but that will take time which gives us a much needed break. )

Some days I’m not optimistic.

On the days when I am optimistic I believe we will eventually take back our country and find a way to expose and destroy the propaganda networks which have been weakening us for decades.

We’ll have to figure out how to avoid infringing on #1A but I think we’ll figure it out. We did with FARA (you can speak for X but you gotta tell people you’re speaking for X).

Then you might get your sister back and my friend will get her son back.

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Outside of Christ. Like the Muslims and other infidels…

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Just a clone of Stephen Miller and his family.

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I am sure we will know soon- after Sonny has been interviewed: Weapons are easy to obtain.
He went to great lengths in his manifesto to absolve his parents of his noble actions even calling them out for NOT teaching him “the truth” about Jews.

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Or other parenting distractors.

Anywaysm are you sure the Earnest family rejects hate and that they taught their kids that love should motivate what they do? Cos you come across as someone who’s willing to take anyone trying to save face for their word.

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Interestingly enough that was the very same sentence that disturbed me. It strikes me as an insufficient effort at introspection for the family. Perhaps this is justified, perhaps it’s not. But I felt that aspect of the letter was noticeably missing — not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.

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and you sound like you’re going out of your way to blame the parents when you don’t know squat (oh, and your SF isn’t too hot, either).

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Religions that proselytize will claim they brought real goodness to the lives they claimed. Perhaps in some cases they did but I have never liked the idea of any religion proselytizing which is one reason I always admired Judaism. I don’t know what the world would be like without proselytizing religions…maybe worse than what we have today since humans seems to have a bottomless ability to create grief.

Religion can certainly set ideal behavior for individuals and a society but looking at history the proselytizing religions have brought massive amounts of death and grief which may or may not balance the good they may have brought. Thinking about it all our current condition probably couldn’t have been any other way. If climate change doesn’t do us in maybe we will eventually evolve to a higher level of behavior.

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Yes I am
“and you sound like you’re going out of your way to blame the parents when you don’t know squat (oh, and your SF isn’t too hot, either).”
DAFUQ does ‘SF’ mean?