Discussion: Pam Geller Duels Juan Williams Over Muhammad Cartoon D.C. Bus Ads

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Evil, wicked, mean and nasty.

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Around Mayberry, they say, the Fox News viewers’ stoopid grew three sizes that day.
For the umpteenth time: the First Amendment does not guarantee your access to a microphone or inoculate you from criticism.

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There is something I find distasteful about her media-perfect hair. Not the hair per se, but her hair on her. But I guess this is how she is making her living now so she’s gotta look presentable.

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Busses and train stations??? She’s inviting mass murder; these ads won’t be allowed.

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Yeah.
I’d definitely ride on a bus with THAT cartoon on the side in Washington, D.C.

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“Muslims that support free speech will not be offended.”

What an idiot.
It’s quite possible both to be in favor of free speech, and still be offended by speech whose dissemination you believe should be protected.
I feel that way about just about everything Pam Geller says, for example.

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Doesn’t the transit company have something to say about what advertising appears on its vehicles? What about the drivers who have to operate these buses? And the passengers?

The concept of Individual liberties does not trump the common good. That is the point that these ‘constitutional conservatives’ always seem to miss.

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I think usually the transit company rents it out to a separate company, which then finds advertisers, so the transit company is usually not involved in each individual ad. I don’t know if this arrangement includes right of refusal, though.

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And it says something about you that you attack personal appearances, especially since you appear to be attacking the way her face looks. Hate older people much? She’s an attractive women. It’s her brain that’s ugly.

And to all you people who think what she’s doing is wrong… Reach down and grab a pair. You won’t get hurt. We should exercise zero tolerance to outside organizations influencing the way we exercise our free speech. This is CLEARLY political speech.

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This Geller thing takes me back to a conversation I had with my Grandmother 50 years ago. We were talking of incident of vandalism at a school and I asked her why someone would do it. She said “because it takes nothing to do it. A can a paint…some darkness and you have all you need. No skill, no courage needed”.

Ms. Geller isn’t defending anything. Not free speech and nor a good idea. She’s just doing what anyone could do the difference being most are above it. She’s not writing a piano concerto or pioneering a new neurosurgical technique. Those kinds of things take ability. She’s just bad mouthing folks. She isn’t doing anything for you or me just Pam. She’s not making us freer to speak and she’s not defending us against shit. She’s doing something that only requires the doer be low class and incapable of real achievement.

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Not really. She’s just provincial and an average thinker. This is all she’s capable of. Couple that with a fever to call attention to herself and you get dumb shit. This is dumb shit. It’s serves no purpose but attention for Pam.

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Ah, outsourcing to avoid responsibility, a basic merikkan business method.

So, if a ball club outsourced advertising on their infield, they would not then be held responsible for the content of the advertising? Well, in this environment where the unlimited spending of money “never” has the taint of corruption, you might be correct.

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This is the product of a mind that never advanced beyond Jr. High. No critical thinking. No weighing facts and opinion. No understanding of unintended consequences. This is just ego. Sadly, the only argument she has to deflect criticism is; "I know you are. But, what am I?

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Right but Geller is not claiming just to be using her speech rights. She’s claiming to be defending that right for all. She’s claiming to defend the First Amendment as many of these fools are doing. They’re not. They’re just saying things most are above saying but claiming they are defending your right to speak in doing so. No one is stopping me from saying or doing what Pam does but me. I think its childish and other than attention getting serves no purpose.

There’s also the fact that most of us are capable of seeing this issue, Muslims in America, in a clearer light than Ms. Geller. She’s going to see what she wants to see we are going to see what’s actually there. What’s actually there is a group of people that are no more misfits in America or terrorists than you or I. But since we lack the major qualification of being an asshole we accept the American Muslim as actually are. And we know Thomas Jefferson, not Geller gave us the right to speak.

And that’s why she’s on FOX.

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Talk about your sound and fury signifying nothing . . .

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Nice try age-shaming me but you are presenting a red herring. I was drawing a distinction between the beauty of her hair and the ugliness of her personality. I called it media-hair for a reason that perhaps eluded you. And if beauty comes form within, well, I’ll stand by your projection.

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I thoroughly disagree. I think she wants there to be consequences, preferably fatal. She thinks it will remake America in her image. She is purely and simply a provocateur.

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Why doesn’t she or someone else post a giant image of Muhammad cartoons on the street in front of her house? How would she feel about that?

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Or on her house? No, she wants others to be the martyrs.