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“The American people are fed up,” said Rep. Tom Marino, R-Pa., one of a handful of Trump backers in Congress, “and if elected officials don’t realize it, we’ll be out of jobs.”
does this mean that the reality of the government actually CAN create at least 535 jobs is sinking in? or is the concept still too abstract for the terminally obtuse?
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Language matters. Obama did not “ram” the ACA down. The Congress legitimately voted. The fact that GOP politicians retreated from their earlier positions to stand united against Obama is the real story.
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Racism. Pure and simple.
That is the “Heart” of it.
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“The candidate has assembled a growing coalition of blue-collar workers, high-school educated and those craving a no-nonsense candidate.”
These people have zero credibility, and their total lack of putting the clues of where the “4” came from the “2 and 2” is what should be angering. They were whipped into a frenzy of the country’s destruction, blah, blah blah, conveniently having forgotten all the Bush years so they could believe that life started in January 2009. Then they go elect a bunch of folks who represented their “anger” to do…nothing. No meaningful legislation passed, no jobs bills, lowering of the country’s credit rating, government shutdowns and millions of dollars wasted on stupid, toothless Obamacare repeal votes.
No one, not one person, has ever asked the natural follow up question: what exactly are you angry about? You’ll get a lot of sputtering, sure, and a lot of the same answer (“Out of control spending! Illegal immigrants taking over!”) but nothing that these people can actually point to that affects them on a daily basis. This alleged “anger” is the biggest lie of the entire election cycle.
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“Now the party of Abraham Lincoln is engaged in a civil war…”
Objection; there is nothing civil about it.
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Republican voters are shocked, shocked!, to discover that when their elected representatives refuse to do anything, which is exactly what they promised, nothing gets done.
Sadly,this says more about Republican voters than it does about their elected representatives.
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Yep. It’s hard to believe that in just six years, everyone in America has forgotten that we got the healthcare bill we have because it was the only healthcare plan the Republicans would agree to support.
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11 dimensional chess and masterful trolling. Bye GOP.
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Trump has been talking about running for President for 30 years. Republicans nominated Sarah Palin! for vice president. Ben Carson lead republican polls for a while. Tea Partiers spit on black congressmen and yell at the president during the state of the union.
And Trump is Obama’s fault.
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This article states the obvious. We already know that most in that party cannot stand Obama. The question is why?. Obama’s policies were not so different from his predecessors that the policies alone would explain the partisan rancor. His use of executive orders was less. His health care plan was modeled off his 2012 opponent’s own plan in Massachusetts.
The article does not mention the groundswell of legislative actions re voter ID. Republicans (who have not gotten the memo apparently) readily admit these are to keep non white vote down.
I think what the article ignores is the apparently abject fear among many white folks north and south that “they” are losing control of the country.
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Obviously! The GOP obstructed all things, promised all things, accomplished nothing, and ended up with a mess on their hands.
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In January 2010, thanks to tea party backing and conservative outrage, Republican Scott Brown won a special election in Massachusetts, claiming the seat that liberal Sen. Ted Kennedy had held for 47 years.
That’s only if you ignore the fact Massachusetts Democrats ran Martha Coakley.
And the lesson there is that if you run an uninspiring candidate who thinks the voters owe her a victory, even a tea party pinup boy can win, even in a blue state.
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“There would be no Donald Trump without Barack Obama,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.
Just to be clear, its not something unique about Obama, even his ethnicity, that got them all stirred up into crazy sauce. ANY Democrat who wins the White House will get the same reaction. It has been a concerted effort on the right to portray the Left of any flavor, including moderates of their own party, as evil and anti-American. Rhetorical extremism will eventually bear fruit and that is where e are today.
So, Lindsey, cram your Obama scapegoating up your dainty ass. The shitstorm kicked up in your party is your own making.
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New Hampshire learned from the errors of Massachusetts.
Neither does the article mention that along with the stated R opposition to anything Obama and the “one term president” business, there was also the rise of the astroturf groups led by the Kochs who feared that the new president and his welcomed, enlightened progressive agenda would be supported wholeheartedly by at the very least the majority of Americans who voted for him. The Kochs knew it could put a dent or destroy their goal for a privatized America with fossil fuels for energy, private health insurance only, vouchers for health insurance, etc. So rose the groups that we have today and the R majority in the House and the states with candidates funded by the Kochs and advice sought from them (think Boner and Ryan) But with buffers like the Corleone family had.
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Many things about Obama’s presidency have disappointed me. But if he turns out to have been the iceberg the GOP finally wrecked itself upon, it will all have been worth it.
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Pretty sure you are trying to make a connection between Coakley and Hillary here and that just does not hold any water. Hillary has been campaigning her heart out left and right from the very beginning. She has amassed a tremendous field campaign, something Bernie supporters seem to fault her for taking all the good volunteers and staffers thus shutting out any competition. Coakley never got off her ass until late polls showed her in real trouble and then it was too late. Hillary did something similar in 2008. She has not made any of those mistakes this time around. She wants this win and she is giving voters reasons reasons to vote for her.
Jeb Bush would be the direct correlation to the Coakley campaign. There is nothing at all similar to how Jeb ran and what Hillary has done so far. In other words, there is no aura of inevitability or expectation coming out of the Hillary camp this cycle no matter how the media and Bernie supporters want to to portray her that way. She’s hungry and working hard for every vote. AND her victory speeches after she has won real votes this primary have been incredible. She is warm and honestly thankful. Again, nothing here reeks of dynasty or entitlement.
She will run hard in the general no matter who the GOP throws at her. And after the primary, its our job to support our candidate. Its a two way deal.
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Turtle is as usual very much mistaken. Drumpf has been itching to get into politics for several years and at first looked into the possibility of running for Governor of New York in 2014 against the incumbent Andrew Cuomo. He opposed everything Cuomo stood for including reproductive rights and gun control and that would have been his platform. He had many meetings in Albany and in New York City with R bigwigs to make plans, but they came to nothing. However, he ended that series of meeting even more determined to run for something else. He ended those discussion by posting on Twitter
“While I won’t be running for governor of New York State, a race I would have won, I have much bigger plans in mind — stay tuned, will happen!”
Yes, this. This is why Hillary gets my vote. I hated her in '08, because I hated what her husband’s administration did to the Democratic party and the arrogance of her campaign then brought it all back for me. But losing clearly humbled her. She’s listening and she’s working for it. Humility and the ability to learn are precious rare qualities in our political class.
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