Discussion: Old Pals Cohen, Sater Teamed Up During Campaign To Pursue Trump Moscow Deal

1 Like

Textbook corruption! And the leading Repubs are tepid and weak in all of their statements. Where is the outrage?

8 Likes

What is clear is that Cohen was deep at work negotiating the president’s business interests through someone convicted of defrauding investors of $40 million even while working as one of the most public faces of Trump’s presidential bid.

That’s an asset, not a liability, with this crew.

11 Likes

Perhaps Trump will propose a wall between Ukraine and Russia and make Putin pay for it? Everything in Donald’s life revolves around building a personal empire. All his minions are guilty of doing his bidding and Mueller now has the evidence to prove it.

6 Likes

The question is, has Sater flipped?

19 Likes

O yes.

That’s why he told his family he was going to prison and the president was too.

Edit to add: I think Jeff Sessions has talked to Mueller, too.

25 Likes

How does Sessions continue as A.G. ? It seems he is as corrupt as Trump.

11 Likes

Lots of ‘kaboom’ articles in the last 24 hours. Benjamin Wittes’ toy cannons are gonna run out soon. We’re now at the ‘cat out of the bag’ stage of the Russia investigation. We now know that Trump actively courted Russia and Russia actively courted Trump. We know it goes all the way back to 2015.

TPM was the first to break the story that Sater was actively taking the lead to shop a Trump hotel in Moscow. The WAPO article adds Michael Cohen (who directly advised the campaign). So that puts the Trump campaign and Trump org. at the center of the Russia conspiracy. What proves this connection is that the email came from a subpoena of Trump org emails.

The NYT article adds a lot more flavor through the thing they seem to be best at: talkin’ 'bout emails. This time, we have juicy emails from Felix Sater himself which shows a very close connection to Trump, and a guy who had enough pull in Russia to get the attention of the Putin government. He put Ivanka in Putin’s office and watched over Trump’s kids when they made a trip to Moscow. We also see that Sater actively believes that a deal with Russia is key to Trump winning. Let’s not forget who Sater is: He’s a mobster with connections to the Italian and Russian mafias. There’s also another thing that comes out of this email chain: Felix Sater is a type of double agent and an opportunist, but his primary loyalty is to Moscow.

The first primary that Trump won was not New Hampshire, it was the contest for Putin’s endorsement, which happened in December 2015. Keep in mind that Michael Flynn and Jill Stein had their big dinner with Putin at the RT Gala in December 2015. The other people at that table were basically Putin’s national security council. They talked at length with Flynn about what changes they wanted to see in US policy. By the time Flynn connected with the Trump campaign, the Trump campaign’s priorities and those of Russia were perfectly aligned.

So what other piece of information do we need to complete the story? We know that the TT Moscow project didn’t take off in 2016, and I suspect that Putin change the terms of the deal. Instead of the hotel, Putin substituted something else: a share of the sale of Rosneft + loans from Vnesheconombank for the Trump/Kushner orgs, and others. We need the proof for those other incentives. The point is that Russia’s play to Trump was financial. In exchange, Putin upped the ask from Trump: repeal of sanctions, changes in US policy on NATO, Ukraine, Syria, and a more isolationist posture that allowed Russia to dominate its old Soviet sphere of influence.

Trump sold out his country to make a buck. It’s treason. Legally, this makes Trump very vulnerable to bribery charges and conspiracy to violate anti-bribery laws. It’s almost poetic if a crime that outlaws base venality is what brings Trump down.

28 Likes

And just after I typed that comment…WAPO comes out with another cannon blast - Cohen writing an email in his capacity in the Trump Org imploring Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin’s top press aide to directly intervene to get the Trump Tower Moscow project moving.

How did Cohen know to email Peskov? How did he get the contact info? Cohen was clearly lobbying Putin. Trump campaign and org were basically indistinguishable at this point. They courted Russia.

19 Likes

While I think that Trump may now be open to bribery and US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act charges, I think there’s also the matter of Treason. At the end of the day, Trump sold out his country for a buck. That’s what this boils down to.

The treason statute, 18 USC 2381 states the following: “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

You know what’s missing from this statute? Clear mens rea/mental state terms like ‘intent’, ‘knowingly/knowledge’, ‘malice aforethought’, ‘willfully’. That means that proving that the act constituting treason took place may be enough to prove the crime itself. Compare that to obstruction of justice, where you have to prove the act and the mental state. That’s why there’s so much focus on all the different times Trump has seemed to intentionally interfere with the investigation.

I haven’t read enough case law on treason, and many legal scholars state that it’s hard to prove. However, the plain language of the statute says that if you establish the act that shows ‘adherence’ to the enemies of the US and ‘aid and comfort’ to such enemy, then it seems like the crime itself should be provable. I think the issue with treason is not that it’s harder to prove than other crimes, but that it’s harder for a Republic to contemplate at this level and on this scale. It’s more about political will than legal analysis.

I would like more legal scholars in the criminal and constitutional fields to take a hard look at treason. Trump may be a case of first impression because our prior leaders have been law abiding for the most part. But just because it’s a case of first impression doesn’t mean that what Trump did isn’t a crime that is punishable and should be punished under existing US laws.

19 Likes

How does Sessions continue as AG? He’s committed perjury publicly 3 times.

And 3 letters tells you why he’s still there - G O P

19 Likes

Liked x infinity

I agree so strongly.

11 Likes

Lawfare Blog regarding the House opening an impeachment inquiry. It is a good summary of Trump’s behaviors and actions.

7 Likes

Because Sessions may be cooperating with Mueller. I don’t think that WAPO article about Trump pressuring Sessions to stop the Arpaio investigation would’ve been published without Sessions (or someone approved by Sessions) leaking to the press.

10 Likes

Yeah that’s how I see it.

I have a feeling that it was right around the time that Trump started publicly attacking Sessions that Sessions was blabbing to Mueller. Now I think Trump knew or suspected that he was.

Any way you want to look at Trump, any facet you want to examine, from any direction at all, there is more than enough right now to get rid of him. The pressure is building on them, too.

He’s toast ultimately - it’s just a fucking matter of when.

How long, O lord?

15 Likes

I think the usual talking heads are going to start pushing the “there’s no crime in collusion” thing. The argument will be that as long as russia only engaged in “independent expenditures” everything is fine.

1 Like

From this comment I take it that you think only collusion is the issue here? Hardly They wouldn’t be all over the financial trail if that was all they were looking for.

There’s so much.

7 Likes

It wouldn’t be the first time.

1 Like

And how schadenfreudelicious if it’s the emails that provide the evidence.

14 Likes

Oh, no. I’m well aware that there’s bribery and money laundering and tax evasion and likely outright theft (along with various conspiracy counts and likely other crimes violent and not). I’m just predicting what the GOP spinners will go for. They’ve taken a consistent line that anything other than the most specific actions related to influencing the election should be off limits for investigation, and done their best to ignore all the other stuff.

4 Likes