Discussion: Oklahoma Governor Signs Bill Allowing Nitrogen Gas To Be Used In Executions

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If you want a humane and painless method of execution that requires no medical expertise to perform, I suggest the guillotine or drowning in a butt of malmsey.

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Anybody notice this yesterday?
This Chart: Falling US Support For Death Penalty

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Wonder who benenfits from Nitrogen sales?

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You sent me to the Google machine with that one. Good on you.

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ā€¦I hear heroin is cheap.

I imagine there are residents who are masters at finding veinsā€¦

Why not keep it local until death penalty is abolished?

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Iā€™m thinking of a Phillip K. Dick-esque sinister frozen-body-mad-science project?

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Real question: Why not carbon monoxide? Everything Iā€™ve read about car/garage suicides and kerosene heater/indoor barbecue deaths suggests that itā€™s quick and painless, you just go to sleep. Seriously wondering why theyā€™d try something thatā€™s never been used before like nitrogen when all they have to do is hook up a car exhaust pipe. Does anyone know?

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The surest way to keep getting re-elected in a red state such OK or TX is proclaiming your love of killing prisoners. Iā€™m gratified and pleased that the approval rate has dropped as much as it has among Democrats. Even the good people of Boston and the state overall who lost friends and family are opposed to executing the bomber

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There are over 400 deaths per year from CO poisoningā€“the most common type of poisoning in the U.S. Seems like a no-brainer. However, at this point I need to say that I am diametrically opposed to capital punishment.

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I mostly agree there. At least, in Texas, they donā€™t condone a Veterinarian who slaughters a neighborā€™s cat (mistaken for feral, as if that makes any difference) and posts it on facebook. Prisoners? ā€œNo problem, pull the handle!ā€

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Just pull up the prison bus and pipe the exhaust into the cell. Fiscal conservatism.

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Yep, I think it was the Nazis first attempt at mass killing, too.

In the mid-80s, one of my female colleagues learned over the phone that her brother in TX did himself in with a hose connected to his exhaust. Awful.

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Jim Morrison could show them how itā€™s doneā€¦Oh wait, he canā€™t.

I am opposed to the death penalty too but I think CO poisoning is not considered because there is no profit to be made.

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Exactly. Always follow the money.

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Capital punishment is a colossal waste of time, money, and legal resources. It is not about justice, itā€™s about blood lust and revenge. Imagine if a family member was killed, you would have to stoke the fires of revenge for an average of about 10 years waiting for the killer to be executed. In contrast, with life in prison w/o the possibility of parole, the killer goes into a dark hole and you can eventually forget about him/her. Not to mention the fact that the death penalty is disproportionately applied to African Americans and other minorities and people later shown to be innocent have been sentenced to death. And capital punishment puts the US into the class of countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and China. Do we really want to be in company like that?

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Painful associations for many Americans with accidental deaths and suicides by CO poisoning.

And as GR alluded, the Nazis used CO gas to kill ā€œdefectivesā€ within Germany/Austria under the T4 project, and Jews in specially rigged ā€œgas vansā€ after the invasion of Russia. An attendee of the infamous 20/1/42 Wannsee Conference, which officially kicked off the Final Solution, bragged how, under his management (vans driven through Belgrade from the holding areas to the burial sites, gassing the crammed victims as it drove), he could declare Serbia as the first Judenrein administrative area within Reich-occupied territory. From lessons learned in Serbia, the Chelmno extermination camp was set up in Poland using CO exhaust gas from mobile vans, instead of stationary gas chambers, to murder many.

However, when the Galtā€™s Gulch coterie controls every aspect of American life, the bottomline features of CO gas will trump sentimental, but unpremissed, reservations.

The death penalty is barbaric in all cases. Butā€¦ nitrogen asphyxiation is a popular method among people who chose to kill themselves because you basically just drift off into unconsciousness.

Unlike other forms of asphyxiation, thereā€™s no gasping or gagging because the brain doesnā€™t really recognize that anything is wrong. The air naturally has about 78% nitrogen in it and the brain canā€™t really distinguish between 78% and 100% nitrogen. It takes about 30 seconds for the person to just fall asleep and then several minutes to die.

They just CANā€™T STAND not being able to kill people.

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