Is there any way that nitrogen could be piped into the OK legislature to do a thorough Tom Delay extermination of the GOP?
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Totally dumb!
Suffocate 'em with nitrogen?
GreatâŚ*thatâll *take care of the âcruel and unusualâ clause of the Constitution ((lays head on desk))
Nope. Cars these days produce so few tailpipe emissions, the old ârun the car in a closed garageâ to commit suicide doesnât work!
I saw that on Facebook also. Thereâs also this story going around. A woman on a big game hunt in Africa five years ago killed a giraffe because she said she could see he was too old and been kicked out of the herd. Social media has caught up with it, and itâs not pretty.
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I canât see how this can be considered humane, might as well just garrote them.
Normals see the Constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment as a must for a civil society.
Repigs see it as a challenge: letâs make it as cruel and unusual as we can without going over that arbitrary line!
Suffocation-not painless.
I have advocated carbon monoxide for a long time. It gets dismissed because itâs not mean and nasty enough.
Whoâs this person who recently posted about Hillaryâs warmongering?
Conor somebody.
Get a clue, dude.
Actions, not words.
Repigs still worship the âelectric chairâ despite the problems of prisoners being set on fire, eyeballs exploding, people screaming, ect. One guy testilied about 120 years ago that it was painless, so itâs good enough for the repiglican party!
Real answer: not painful enough for the repig bloodlusters.
All this assumes that (1) the justice system can identify defendants meriting death without making errors, and (2) that we as a society continue to believe that state-sponsored (and sanctioned) murder is something we want to do. I donât think (1) is a possibility even with a justice less flawed than ours, so please consider what follows for discussion purposes only. I am an opponent of capital punishment.
About 15 years ago the heat exchanger in our natural gas furnace developed a couple of cracks. Carbon monoxide leaked into our air. We had a CO detector, but we had been having headaches for several days prior to the detector alerting us to the situation.
CO causes pretty nasty headaches: I wouldnât recommend it as a poison for capital punishment. Scuba divers who go too deep (below 120 feet or so) on an air mix develop a condition called nitrogen narcosis. I used to dive, but never went to those depths. Divers I know who have gone through nitrogen narcosis compare it with inhaling nitrous oxide, which I have experienced when my wisdom teeth were pulled. No headaches, just a rather bizarre euphoria.
If I were picking an asphyxiation agent, I think Iâd opt for N2O and once anesthesia was induced reduce the O2 in the gas mix to 0. However, as stated earlier, I donât think we should be in the endeavor of executing people.
Mary Fallin, what a gal. She was drinking and partying with friends while her minions were botching the execution of a black man with unproven drugs. Now she wants to execute people with a gas that is unproven.
I am sure she is being christian. Since she is so christian why not approve crucifixion?
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LiveStream it on Newsmax. PPV. Capitalism.
Thanks, helpful. I donât know how I didnât know the Nazis used it, I guess I just think of Zyklon B.
Thatâs interesting!
ââThe process is fast and painless,â said Christian, a former Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper who wrote the bill. âItâs foolproof.ââ
Proof of folly maybe, but not foolproof. Everything that goes into a state legislature, certainly the OK state legislature, damn well better be foolproof, because it will have to survive in a very fool-rich environment.
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The first thing to point out about this method of execution by nitrogen, is that it isnât the surfeit of nitrogen that kills, itâs the lack of oxygen. The atmosphere we breath is about 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and 1% various other stuff. It wonât be the fact that the air they make the victim breath is going to kill them because the nitrogen will be way over 78%, itâll be because the oxygen is way less than 21%.
They donât want the public thinking of this as death by hypoxia, because, contrary to one statement in this article, we actually do have experience of execution by hypoxia. The Khmer Rouge is supposed to have favored executing those it thought enemies of the state by putting a plastic bag over their heads and then wrapping the open end airtight around their necks. Such a death is neither particularly quick nor painless.
Iâm sorry. Thatâs not really a fair comparison. Itâs not fair to the Khmer Rouge. In their method, the victim rebreathes CO2 in a very small volume, which raises the CO2 level in the air they rebreathe, and thus the CO2 levels in their bloodstream. Rising CO2 levels in the bloodstream creates a narcosis, then unconsciousness before the hypoxia becomes too painful and terrifying (though God knows the mere knowledge of impending death is terrifying and pinful all by itself). In the OK method, the CO2 breathed out is going to be diluted by all that nitrogen, so there wonât be anything to dull the pain and terror of dying slowly of hypoxia.
Way to go OK! Put the Khmer Rouge to shame, leave them in the dust in your inexorable march to barbarism.
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They could actually use something that is used in every hospital : anasthetic . Give the person an overdose , painless and non-costly .
Splitting headaches with CO poisoning.
Am I the only one here who thinks thereâs a cognitive disconnect between the search for less painful methods of killing and the notion that capital punishment is something we simply must have? It seems to me that the search for the former is a tacit admission that thereâs something wrong with the latter.
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