Good. Engagement in the 2018 and 2020 elections is good. Been awhile since another Democrat got 50+% in successive POTUS elections and the last one that did better was GHWB in 1988.
In his meeting with Sanders, Obama and the Vermont Senator discussed their different visions of the Democratic Party’s future, reportedly debating the gaps between idealism and practicality.
We’re glad you have a vision for our future Bernie
Gee I though you had to be a member of the Party to vote on it’s future
Give us a call Bernie when you change (I) to (D)
I’m a fan of Patrick Deval based on the little I know.
Obama gave a wonderful speech. Hillary found an earlier tape of Deval giving the very same speech with the very same gestures. Obama was selling it, Deval’s presentation seemed to lack charisma. Hillary saw this a plagiarism. Deval got Obama off the hook by stating that he was honored that Obama had chosen to use him as a speech writer.
The point for me is that Deval was the one who had come up with the eloquent words to describe the ideals all three of them shared.
He just wants the $$ that comes with the D. Not the obligations.
I’m giving the D candidate as much $$ as I can.
The name is Deval Patrick. Also, he was Governor of Massachusetts. The state does not actually have a Mayor.
This says it ALL, although I might have substituted “reality” for “practicality”.
In his meeting with Sanders, Obama and the Vermont Senator discussed their different visions of the Democratic Party’s future, reportedly debating the gaps between idealism and practicality.
Yes because under his leadersnip we Democrats lost the House, the Senate, Governorships and over 1000 seats in the state legislature. Other than winning himself, his supporters cannot be bothered to vote in off year elections.
You mean again?
Name me a midterm election, with a Democrat in the WH where we didn’t loose seats in Congress.
I’ll wait.
And I didn’t even add the virulent racism that spiked turning his tenure in the WH.
The 22nd Amendment is a bitch, isn’t it?
Then by all means I encourage you to capitulate now.
I think politico is pushing this a little. If Obama really wanted to keep these meeting secret, he would. And all of them are also leaders of big chunks of the democratic coalition. So you could just say that the former president is still involved in helping his party.
Hadn’t realized that I used first names for both Hillary and Deval but used Obama’s last name.
Jason Kander? I’m friendly with Jason and worked with him on his Senate race (very low level fund raising). He’s 37. I wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted to run some day, but I can’t imagine that day will be in 2020. More like 2028 or after would be my guess.
I love Joe Biden but Sweet Jesus, he’d be 79 on inauguration day. The future of the party is not with an 80 year old.
Other than Kander, I don’t like any of those options. Love Liz Warren, but she’s too old and has been fodder for the rightwing smear machine for too long. Obama got where he was because they didn’t notice him early enough to make their lies believable by years of repetition, as they did with Clinton.
Love Joe, again too old. Sanders is too old and the right has way too much invented baggage attached to him already.
Love Deval, don’t think a Massachusetts pol can carry the country. A Landrieu – not really a Democrat and carries WAY too much corruption baggage.
The Indiana & LA mayors – never heard of them, will have to investigate.
My dream ticket is Sherrod Brown at the top with Tammy Duckworth in line. Brown would carry his swing state, has working class creds that can’t be beat, and has a smart, powerful wife who also has working class bonafides AND is a journalist, just to blow the right’s tiny little minds.
When he steps down, Tammy is perfect for another 8 years. As hard as they’ll try, even the vermin of the right can’t successfully attack a wounded vet in a national election. Yeah, they’ll try, and it’s worked in local elections, but not nationally.
Neither of them are really on the smear machine’s radar yet, which is a bonus. As far as I’m concerned, keeping them focused on all the wrong people for as long as possible is our best bet.
Just my two cents.
I’m hoping we can get Harold Stassen to switch parties.
What’s that you say?
I’ve kinda haddit with Bernsie. I’ve especially haddit with the rigged primary argument. Imagine that… a private organization put rules in place that made it difficult for a carpetbagger to gain nomination to run it. What kind of private organization wouldn’t do that?
Oh yeah. Republicans.