Discussion: NYT: We 'Regret' That Nazi Profile 'Offended So Many Readers'

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Nothing new from the Times. Hereā€™s another puff piece about Nazis that appeared in the Times just before World War 2 broke outā€¦

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Okay. Since thereā€™s a child molester running for US Senator, how about a nice puff piece on pedophiles, so we get in touch with their inner feelings ?

J.F.C.

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Though the piece dutifully mentions his desire for a white ethno-state, it doesnā€™t mention how he aims to attain that society

Glossing over how people like this hope to achieve a ā€œwhite enthno-stateā€ is like casually mentioning that Hitler wanted a Christian-only country, without mentioning the concentration camps and gas chambers for the Jews.

A shameful act of journalistic malpractice.

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The Grey Whore has forgotten that many of its readers do not care to normalize Nazism or white supremacy.

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I know nothing about the writer in question but can make a few guesses based on what I do know, which is that reporters for big metro dailies were a certain type of person in printā€™s '80s heyday and remain that today . Upper middle class, well educated, having served an apprenticeship at papers in places like Des Moines or Providence. And theyā€™d be mostly unprepared to see beyond the fact that the Nazi they were assigned to profile didnā€™t seem weird or strange in anything but belief system. Their own surprise at this would become the story, exactly as it did. They were never equipped to say and thatā€™s horrible because hereā€™s whyā€¦ The writer had his own little coda saying, basically, ā€œI didnā€™t learn anything from this.ā€ And didnā€™t take that as a hint to not publish it, and nobody else did either. The long-noted banality of evil escapes them. And yet Iā€™ll bet you a considerable sum that if the writer eats meat, itā€™s fish, and if itā€™s tuna itā€™s dolphin-free. Because dolphined-up tuna is simply wrong. Sometimes the wrongness of a thing is just inescapably obvious.

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Fuck Nazis and fuck the people who sympathize with them. You are not your circumstances, you are your reaction to your circumstances

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The NYT has gone out of its way to not only normalize racists and racism but put on the best possible face for Trump and his idiocy.

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He has 20 years of experience as a journalist, should know betterā€¦

Richard Fausset is a correspondent based in Atlanta. He mainly writes about the American South, focusing on politics, culture, race, poverty and criminal justice. He covered the Charleston, S.C., church massacre in 2015, and wrote extensively about working-class voters in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election.

From 2012 to 2014, he was a foreign correspondent with The Los Angeles Times, based in Mexico City, where he wrote about the ravages of drug cartels on the Mexican countryside and the capture, in 2014, of JoaquĆ­n GuzmĆ”n Loera, the Mexican drug lord known as El Chapo. Mr. Fausset also spent six years covering the American South for that paper, producing a series of articles on changing demographics in the region entitled ā€œThe New Latino South.ā€ From 1999 to 2006, he was a reporter on the Los Angeles Times Metro desk. He served as editor of Flagpole, the alternative weekly in Athens, Ga., from 1997 to 1999.

Mr. Fausset grew up in New Orleans. He has a degree in English from the University of Texas at Austin and a degree in journalism from the University of Missouri.

At least here in Denmark, the Journalism education appears in ruins, they donā€™t know their own language or history, glibness and superficiality is a must, any form of depth is despised. Seflpromotion is rampant.

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"ā€¦the need to shed more light, not less, on the most extreme corners of American life and the people who inhabit them.ā€

Butā€¦you didnā€™t do that

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http://www.magneticstate.com/blogdept/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/banksy-banality-of-evil1.jpg

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He should. From the excerpts I saw, and from my own experience, Iā€™d bet a large sum he was so struck by the guyā€™s day-to-day normality that it seemed worthwhile to make it the focus. And Iā€™d also bet a slightly smaller sum but still a sum that he instinctively didnā€™t want to impose his own ā€œnorms,ā€ which Iā€™m sure are strongly anti-racist, on this person he probably perceived to be far less powerful than himself. That may seem crazy but if youā€™re steeped in it for 40 years of education and career itā€™s powerful stuff.

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He mainly writes about the American South, focusing on politics, culture, race, poverty and criminal justice.

Well, that explains a LOT.

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Iā€™m not quite so offended by this (as are so many others) because I read the entire article, and deduced that the subject is just another scared little white man, who sees his privilege shrinking every day. We should not be surprised at this reaction, nor should we style the article as ā€œnormalizingā€ him. His type is very prevalent in many parts of this country, and I appreciate the ā€œsunshineā€ applied to his horrific beliefs. We should be repelled by his political philosophy, not attacking the messenger who turned over the rock under which he lives. Just my opinion, of course.

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Fineā€¦ but the epilogue could have been more stark.

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Serling was a genius. We need a man like him today.

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this article is typical of the thinking among some journalistā€™/writers to be ā€˜fairā€™ā€¦which comes across as being hornswaggeld by the like of the neo-nazis.

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This is the New York Timesā€™ high point in false equivalency. Heā€™s a Nazi and he endorses murdering whomever needs murdering to get to his all-Aryan paradise ā€“ letā€™s fairly cover both sides of the story! I mean, Nazis are just excitable boys, right?

Of course, they gave Trump the same treatment.

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I should read the piece before I say more :grinning: but I agree just meeting a type like this, if you never have, is an eye-opener. I donā€™t think showing that a personā€™s day-to-day life is normal is the same as normalizing. But from my second-hand perch it seems he might have been overfastidious, maybe, in not talking to local civil-rights people, or Jewish groups or anyone else whoā€™d be affected if this guyā€™s beliefs were adopted. (More.) The writer might have said, the last time your group got a chance to do stuff in the world, between 50 million and 80 million people died, some 11 of those millions in an industrialized genocide and wholesale slaughter of people deemed inferior. What went wrong? What keeps that from happening again? The answers might have been just as instructive as the rest of the piece.

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Well, compare it to the articles about black men such as Michael Brown, who see themselves actually being imprisoned, tortured, and killed everyday in America and maybe you will understand.

They donā€™t get this sympathetic treatment by the New York Times. They get vilified, and turned into monsters.

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