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Massive amounts of respect for this publication from me. The only one with some cojones on this issue.
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This will piss off both gun nuts and religious nuts (particularly the cretins who are both).
Good. If there actually were a god, I think She would be pleased.
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What their responses really mean: Our thoughts and our prayers go out to the NRA who is going to come under attack because of this incident.
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Here we go again next week? tomorrow ? Who Knows
David Wheeler, one of the parents of the 20 first graders slain in the Newtown, Connecticut Sandy Hook Massacre, tells CBS Newsâ â60 Minutesâ that itâs always somebodyâs elseâs child that gets killed by a gun â until itâs yours.
âI would like every parent in this country â thatâs 150 million people,â Wheeler told CBSâs Scott Pelley. âI would like them to look in the mirror and thatâs not a figure of speech, Scott. I mean find a mirror in your house and look in it and look in your eyes and say âthis will never happen to me, this will never happen in my school, this will never happen in my community,â and see if you actually believe that. And if thereâs a shadow, the slightest shadow of doubt in what youâve said? Think about what you can do to change that,â Wheeler said. âIt is going to happen again. Itâs going to happen again. Every time, itâs somebody elseâs school, itâs somebody elseâs community, itâs somebody elseâs town. Until one day, you wake up and itâs not.â
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Primarily the âthoughts and prayersâ of the Republican NRA-whores and corporate tools were in hopes that no innocent guns were harmed in the savagery that took place. Their primary thought: âHow can I appear to show compassion or seem to give a sht about the victims of this rampage without insulting the NRA or upsetting my Dumfukistan âbaseâ of low/no info Bagger & Con GOP gun humpers? HmmmmâŚâ
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Finally someone in the media is starting to cut through the bullshit. Will they be the lone sporadic voice of reason in the swamp of stupidity that passes for the fourth estate (and the general population) or will others help take up the fight against ignorance and bullshit that infects our body politic?
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Best by a bulletproof vestâŚSatan informs me hell ainât freezing over anytime soon
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Well it looks like the toilet paper that passes for the New York Post went the other direction.
Fucking disgusting.
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We here constant crap about the âliberal mediaâ but this is one of the few left-leaning stories youâll ever see. Thousands of articles about Trump, Benghazi, and other right wing BS though.
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Republicans wonât even ban people on no fly list from buying guns. This has got to stop.
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Amen to that. Amen!
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This was an American citizen of east Indian ancestry who more than likely got mad about a promotion or something else about his job, and got a wife who could help him with his revenge. Sounds more like domestic terrorism. This is not to say that the real bad terrorist who want to kill thousands who are born here in the US wonât get the idea of buying guns since it is so easy to do in this country. My husband said this is what home grown terrorist would use since the terror of the DC shooter who terrorized for weeks and was a domestic terrorist. There is almost no way to stop it from happening. The US can ban the sell of automatic weapons, and ammunition that is used to kill more than one person at a time. Guns for hunting and hand guns still do damage, but at least people have a chance to get away.
âGOD ISNâT FIXING THISâ
âThe majority of Americans understand we should be changing these laws.â President Barack Obama
A mid-July survey by the Pew Research Center supports his claim. Almost 80% of respondents backed laws preventing the mentally ill from purchasing firearms, and 70% were in favor of a national gun-sale database.
AND PRESIDENT OBAMA CANâT FIX THIS
Those numbers donât really mean much, however. What does matter is the opinion of members of the US CONgress - and that legislative body is overwhelmingly against further gun regulation
CONgress doesnât have to represent the views of the majority of Americans, It represents the views of Americans who go at the polls on Election Day and the simple majorities in the voting districts in which they cast their ballots.
The blockage is In the House of Representatives - which has a 58-vote Republican majority. And those victorious Republican candidates are selected in primaries where the financial support of deep-pocketed pro-gun lobbying groups like the National Rifle Association can prove decisive and the voters who turn out are the kind of conservatives who donât take kindly to a candidate in favor of greater restrictions on gun ownership.
CONgress isnât just against high-profile gun regulation - even measures supported by the majority of the American people - It also prohibits federal efforts to conduct research on the causes of gun violence.
In 2012, for instance, Democratic House candidates received 1.4 million more votes than Republicans, but the conservative party won 33 more seats.
During the 2014 mid-term elections, just 36% of eligible voters went to the polls. And more of them, in states and congressional districts where it counts, voted for Republican candidates picked in primaries by just 9.5% of US registered voters.
In the US today, itâs the gun-control views of that 9.5% that make the difference.
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This isnât about God or guns. This is about business. Gun violence, the periodic massacre, creates fear that sell more guns. The NRA is a lobby group funded by Gun Manufacturers to pay off the politicians they need to keep the guns at the sales counter. MSRâs a good, profitable widgets.
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Thereâs no excuse for semiautomatic rifles or shotguns, or magazines bigger than six rounds, anywhere in America. Anyone who canât kill a duck with a double barreled shotgun should go back to the range and practice on clays. Anyone who canât harvest a deer with a lever action 30-30, ought to leave the gun at home and practice their stealth and tracking skills with a camera. Anyone who canât sufficiently defend themselves with a double action revolver needs to seriously reexamine their vigilante fantasy.
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Spare us the prayer.
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Itâs not that no one has ever said this before, obviously, but itâs becoming a louder drumbeat: We choose this. Obama said after Umpqua itâs because of political choices we make. It doesnât just happen. We choose to let it happen, and we could make a different choice. And all the efforts at deflectionâitâs Islam, itâs mental illness, itâs the man in the moonâit canât work forever. Smoking was an entrenched thing too, but once people finally got it through their heads that it pretty inevitably kills you in gruesome ways, they changed the societyâs approach to it. This can change too. Thatâs what I think weâre hearing.
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She would if enough Americans were praying.