Discussion: New Poll Has Clinton Ahead By Two Points In Toss-Up North Carolina

Boy, life just keeps getting better and better. Suck on that poll, McCrory.

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New Poll Has Clinton Ahead By Two Points In T̶o̶s̶s̶ Throw-Up North Carolina

Slight correction

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Voting third party is risking a Trump victory, which would mean the end of our country and Supreme Court.

Just don’t vote 3rd party.

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and that’s 7% unaccounted for or undecideds? Lots of these polls show double digit or near double digit “not sure” or “undecideds” even the ones with Stein and Johnson included. After the first debate, we may see the bulk of these break for Hillary when the landslide takes clearer shape.

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@inlabsitrust, sadly, I do not share your optimism, my friend. I agree with Reince Pubis, but not his logic. I think half the American electorate is fed up with “establishment”/dumb enough to fall for this bullshit “measured” version of Trump. Until he is not POTUS, and Hillary is, I will work under the assumption that we’re going to have President Orange Asshole.

Perish the thought! In my darkest moments when lying awake in the middle of the night I know this is possible, and I agree this is a “change” election. But notice that Obama has an approval rating over 50% while Congress a positive approval rating in the teens. Also “direction of the country” is in the tank.

I think by “change” Americans mean change the dynamic that encourages gridlock for which the GOP is responsible. By electing a Dem prez and Congress and Senate, they can achieve this while also keeping a lunatic from gaining access to the world’s largest nuke arsenal.

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And McCrory is behind Cooper by 9 points in the governor’s race.

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Bingo. Congress is on the wrong track, not the White House.

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The Green Party, the Libertarian Party, are true political parties in a system which does not support ‘true’ parties. The Democrats & Republicans are much closer to coalitions in the European sense. In parliamentary systems the coalitions are formed after an election, in the US they exist before an election. In a parliamentary system parties are additive, in our system parties are subtractive.

What utter nonsense.

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It’s why party platforms in the US are so meaningless.
The Republicans, the Democrats have no where near the cohesion to be called real parties.
Hence the ‘Dixicrats’
Hence the ‘Tea Party’

I hope you’re right. I soooo hope you’re right. More than anything.

It would be helpful if everyone, including the media, would stop referring to Congress as if it were a homogeneous entity, especially in its egregious lack of purpose and its exemplification of ineffectiveness.

That reference ignores the fact that the GOP are primarily, if not wholly, responsible for the lack of productivity of the Congress.

Any failure to highlight that reality smears the many Democrats who continue to try to move our country forward.

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But wasn’t the “right track, wrong track” number also in the toilet in 2012? I remember that being the excuse often used by the media to justify their horse race narrative. It never occurs to them that there are a significant number of people who believe we’re on the wrong track because of Republicans and only Democrats and progressive policies can right the ship.

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Uh, no.

Party platforms are and have always bee a series of wish lists and are never binding.

The Dixiecrats were conservative Southern Democrats who left the party after LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act—and they all found a home in the Republican party.

The Tea Party is nothing more than a renamed and less-educated version of the John Birch Society, a right-wing group that has now taken over much of the GOP.

Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the concept of American political parties, which are, at their best, coalitions of groups with similar or overlapping political goals—just as they are in any parliamentary system. The cohesion you so readily fail to see is what keeps the coalitions together.

Your lack of knowledge about the political parties is stunning.

That’s nice, but there are two rules of thumb here.

  1. People don’t really start making up their minds as to who should be president before Labor Day.

  2. All polls have AT LEAST a 3% margin of error, and this one admittedly has a 4.9% margin of error. The poll says her lead is 2%

This all adds up to one big goose-egg.

However, all the polls taken since the conventions have said one thing over and over. Clinton is winning and Trump is losing and this is one more stick on the fire.

It’s only a question of how much damage Mr. Chee-tos will do to the GOP now.

I just received a “Breaking News” e-mail from CNN that characterizes North Carolina as a “Battleground State.”
If NC is in that category come November, it’s going to be one hell of a great Election Night.

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Or, of course, they could also break for Trump. I think most of the undecided voters have previously voted Republican. So, if Trump just doesn’t say anything, himself, that is facially disqualifying, these R voters may well come back to “their” party. Even Sarah Pallin was prepped sufficiently to get through her debate. She lost it in an interview with Katy Kouric, not in her Biden debate. The history of these debates is that when challengers show they can go toe-to-toe with an better known incumbent, the challenger wins the debate.

Amen Maximus - I moved to NC from DC/NoVA to escape the beltway culture. Then McCrory/Berger and the meery band of Popester puppets proceeded to turn the state into some Randian/Atwood dystopia. OK, that’s an exaggeration (for now) but the yeehah’s and dipshits in the NCGA need to be reined in hard. We have a good shot at getting some Senate seats back then we need to address the gerrymandering once and for all.

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