Discussion: NBC Host To Sanders: Your Take On Superdelegates Is A Bit 'Hypocritical'

And never did!

I’ve always preferred Hillary, flaws and all. But I used to think Sanders was alright too. Clearly, we didn’t know what we didn’t know, and you shouldn’t be ashamed for identifying a candidate with compelling policy positions, and then, discovering in the course of a campaign, the personal character of the candidate was sorely lacking. That is one of the benefits of a long campaign battle… the national spotlight reveals a lot about a candidate.

As a Hillary supporter, and fellow liberal, I tip my hat to you for your active and constructive participation. That is something you need not be ashamed of.

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Good to hear!

Sanders makes two arguments but the problem is that he at times highlights one without the other questioner pushing him: (1) superdelegates unfairly are supporting Clinton in states where he won big (2) superdelegates should vote for the candidate most likely to win / best person.

The logic of the first position would mean that superdelegates should in effect go to the person who won the state, at the very least if one candidate won it by a large margin. The problem here is if that alone was the test, Clinton would win – she is ahead on pledged delegates and won big in some states. I think if she merely received superdelegates matching her support there that she would be able to go over the top. Sanders winning many low population states doesn’t help here.

If he simply wanted superdelegates to wait before endorsing a candidate, that is fine, but he is talking out of both sides of his mouth. As to the second point, that’s an undemocratic position, and I thought he was big on that, but it is a principled position. Might be wrong, but that’s separate. The problem is that he sometimes raises the first argument and it doesn’t hold up.

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Actually, real journalistic ethics would have Todd reveal that he has a possible conflict of interest so that the viewing public is aware that a relative of his is connected to a campaign. He’s never done that.

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You know it!

Just like in 2000 with nader. Where do people think his 3rd party run money came from?

Sadly, it worked…for bush!

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Lol

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Bernie needs to learn the difference between a superdelegate and a pledged delegate. If a superdelegate was bound to vote the way their state voted, how is that different from a pledged delegate? The primary vote would determine both. And then the leaders of the party have absolutely no say as to who is the nominee.

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Face it, Sen. Sanders, when even Chuck Todd can summon the cojones to call your logic bulls**t, you’re toast.

The good news is we only have about 8 more days of this nonsense to deal with. But it would be good if some more prominent Democrats - I’m looking at you, Senator Warren - would call him out on his rantings, especially about the e-mail ā€œscandalā€. He had the right tone in the first debate, and nothing he’s heard since, including the IG’s report, should’ve given him reason to change his mind.

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It’s the only argument that Bern has left and yes,it is hypocritical.

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And the TPM war against Bernie continues. Lets forget that Hillary continued to the last contest 8 years ago when Obama had already won. An no articles about Hillary’s abysmal email issues that got a lot worse for her this week or how her numbers continue to crater. I used to love this site, but TPM should be renamed ETP, or establishment talking points…

And before anyone says it- don’t worry, I’m leaving…

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He already went there:

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Was Clinton behind by 3 million votes and several hundred delegates at this point 8 years ago?

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Been thinking that too. Time for Waren to let the air out of the puffed up buffoon Bernie has become. Of course, the Berrnie supporters probably would just throw chairs at her

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I doubt they’re constitutional for a federal election. cf. term limit statutes.

Y’know, Bernie Sanders is really high maintenance!

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I am much less worried about Sanders than I was before. He spoke with the TYT people, and they asked him about supporting 3rd party over Hillary, and he essentially said he wouldn’t do that.

He cited Ralph Nader and the 2000 elections. The fact that he is so openly aware of that disastrous elections has me pretty certain that Sanders’s actions right now are simple politicking (maybe as a backup in case something does happen with Hillary’s emails), rather than him taking a hard line against Hillary.

Sanders has also started talking a lot more about the dangers of Donald Trump, so I think he will pivot to supporting Hillary fairly quickly once the last primaries are over.

While I disagree with him dragging the process through California, I can see how after having led a successful insurgent movement, although he knows he has lost, he feels he has to play the process out till the end and give every one of his supporters the opportunity to vote.

I am convinced (hopeful?) that we have misconstrued Sanders a bit, and he will come around to forcefully supporting Hillary once the primaries are over.

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You’re perhaps too kind - Todd accidentally stumbles into journalism once in awhile but he rarely does so without a counterbalancing idiotic question/statement within a day.

Blind squirrel, broken clock, etc.

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Apples to oranges. First, she was less than 100 delegates behind (not 300), she stopped criticizing Obama on stage, she didn’t wrongly claim the votes she lost were all rigged, she didn’t accuse the DNC of things it didn’t do, and she didn’t try to kick respected veteran Democrats like Barney Frank off of DNC committees while giving left wing extremists like Cornell West a bully pulpit at the convention just to cause problems for the eventual nominee

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Considering you have only made 10 posts in the 2 years you’ve been here, I don’t think we’ll notice.

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