Discussion: Nation's Largest Law Enforcement Agency Rejects Body Cameras As Distraction

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I find it amazing that employees who are paid by the taxpayers have decided that they are so special that they should not be accountable to their employers. Many of the so called reasons sound more like excuses than reasons. I suspect the real reasons is to avoid getting caught screwing off on the job and covering their collective butts. They work for the American public and area accountable to them. We as a nation seem to forget that if you are a public employee you work for ‘we the people’. When you decide that you want to hide what you are doing one might begin to think you are up to no good.

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I’m sorry - I really could not care less that wearing body cams might “hurt employee morale” among cops.

Memo to cops: If your poor widdle fee-fees are going to be hurt just because you can’t be a big bully anymore, then GET OUT.
Signed: YOUR EMPLOYER (that’s me, and every other citizen who pays your salary).

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Translation: It’s so much harder to beat and/or shoot people with impunity when you’re being recorded.

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Why in the hell does the department get to decide. We need a federal law: every level of publicly funded law enforcement wears body cams whenever on the clock!

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Well not to pick on the law enforcement folks I’d like to see that anyone carrying a weapon wear a body cam.

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Having first hand experience with East German and Soviet border guards, I can attest that the latter probably wouldn’t have required body cams. Not necessarily a friendly bunch, but certainly way more professional and knowledgable than what I am used to from US border officials.

That’s an interesting approach. Too bad it wasn’t the case when law enforcement decided that flawed as they might be Speeding Cameras’ were the way to go. The advantages out weighed the disadvantages and all that. But for these guys it has to be perfect or its a no go. Fuck them. They work for the public and in America that public is their boss. Put on the fucking cameras on them and stop allowing them to blow smoke up our asses. We know why they don’t want to wear them.

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operating cameras may distract agents…may hurt employee morale…may be unsuited to the hot, dusty conditions…questions their effectiveness and calls for more analysis…not only complicated, it’s also expensive

Pitiful whining upended by this:

NEW ORLEANS — Three days after a 6-year-old autistic boy was killed and his father wounded when marshals opened fire on their vehicle in a Louisiana town, authorities have arrested two of the four officers…Speaking of the body camera footage that was recovered from the officers, he said: “It is the most disturbing thing I’ve seen, and I will leave it at that.”

CBS, this morning, reported the officers involved fired more than 18 rounds and that the 6-year-old was struck by more than 5 bullets. The child’s father had no outstanding warrants and it is suspected one of the officers had a personal grudge against the child’s father.

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“It needs more study” is the refrain of people who desperately don’t want something to happen but need a fig leaf.

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I can certainly understand that it must be a bit off-putting to have to wear a camera at work. I would hate it. But the worst thing that I do at my work is check facebook once in a while or maybe commit a typo. I don’t kill anybody. These cops have brought it on themselves. We simply do not trust them anymore. It’s sad, but it is true.

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“growing number of police forces that use the devices to promote public trust and accountability.”

… ???

"It said widespread distribution might hurt morale because employees could interpret the cameras as a show of distrust. "

Please…

Nothing wrong with every citizen being surveilled, but law enforcement? Waaaaaaaa…

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It is absolutely a show of distrust. Cops are killing people - unarmed people - a lot. No, the public does not trust you.

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Let’s run this “leak” up the flagpole and see if we can get away with not being held accountable to taxpaying citizens/civilians.

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  • "Putting these in place, as you know is complicated …
    See above photo
    and it’s expensive."
    There isn’t a spare dollar in DHS’ budget of $41.2 BILLION for FY 2016.

  • “Cameras… may be unsuited to the hot, dusty conditions”
    No one has ever successfully filmed anything in a desert.
    (BTW: Soldiers use them in Afghanistan and Iraq with no climate problem.)

  • “Widespread distribution might hurt morale because employees could interpret the cameras as a show of distrust.”
    Their feelings are of paramount importance.

Well, I’m convinced. Aren’t you?

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The fact they are trying to block use of cameras shows that there is a great need for them to be used.

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“It said widespread distribution might hurt morale because employees could interpret the cameras as a show of distrust.”

Aww, don’t take it personally! It’s not you as a person we distrust, it’s your whole profession. That’s something your various law enforcement union officials, and your staff committees, might want to think about before they get all jacked up and spew nonsense.

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Body cameras are proven to reduce the number of violent contacts with citizens by police.

Any law enforcement agency unwilling to wear them must be hiding their violent conduct.

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It isn’t the Mexican ‘invasion’ that we ought to be worried about, it’s our own people on this side of the border that are the scary ones.

How do you start one of those petitions again? Is it MoveOn?