Well, people who de facto “elected” BaggerPols by staying away from the polls will have to embrace the derp, just like the Baggers who elected the BaggerPols in the first place.
Maybe a 30-year stint in a nation with no voting rights at all would “educate”…Lets say the 30 year stint would start at age 18 and end at age 48. At age 48, when the disinterested and “bored-with-politics” person returns, just maybe he/she will understand.
Unfortunately (a) we don’t have time and resources to send millions of people to these countries and bring them back (b) non-voters hurt those who VOTE as well
I couldn’t have said it better. Makes me nervous when fellow Sanders supporters say they won’t vote for Clinton no matter what.
No real wonder why employers big and small didn’t forcefully argue against and fight this onerous new law. This was a big two-fer: 1) Stick it to the gays and trannies; and 2) Save big-ass money on court costs. No state employer-based suits, far less need for judges, court houses and the various other court-related employees. Oh, and 3) What a great reason to lower taxes on the living, breathing corporations and their upper-class humans!!
Non voters are stealth humans, like a person who embezzles. Difference is, the embezzler can get caught, punished and held up to public scrutiny.
There is little of that happening with people whose internal compass does not include civic duty.
Thank you.
How long until we see a law suit staying implementation of the law, as it goes through the system to be declared unconstitutional? The clowns that passed the law aren’t just up against their own state. They will have the whole country to fight on this.
I suggest, as a protest, Americans make a decision to ignore the gendered bathroom signs, in mass. I plan on it. I’ll use whatever bathroom is closest. From now on, use whichever bathroom you want. As long as your intent is to take a shit, I don’t think you are breaking a law in most states. If you are, the law is clearly unconstitutional (it discriminates on the basis of gender).
Why do they waste time doing this knowing full well that even if their own SC upholds this that it will be struck down nationally?
OT, but these used to be common in Japan. At first it was a bit off-putting but not nearly as much as the traditional Japanese crapper.
I’d say that I have seen women use the men’s facilities about 25% of the time. When asked it is usually (1) very long lines, (2) the men’s is cleaner.
Where is the corporate leadership in NC on this issue? It was business leaders who told Jan Brewer in Arizona to veto and rein in the hate and it worked.
Talk is cheap. Where is the action? http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-nc-antigay-20160325-snap-htmlstory.html
This is the kind of stealth crap Republicans have been passing in state after state since the Democratic party surrendered contesting all 50 states. Welcome to red state America where the mob is ruled by self-serving aristocrats.
To all of my North Carolinian brothers and sisters, get out and defeat the hatred that is taking over your government!
Hardly surprising I suppose. NC is about as racist and bigoted as it gets and merely gets overlooked because of states that are clearly either worse or more famous for it.
The Dems who voted for this should be ashamed of themselves and should be ridiculed mercilessly for it.
And anyone who argues this isn’t a massive procedural and substantive difference is deliberately lying. There’s no “oops I didn’t understand” about it.
Am I missing sonething? Is this even constitutional?
Hell, did they even know about this beforehand? It was a stealth move, right?
Yes, those Sanders supporters, of which I am one, need to get a fucking grip.
When I’m at a crowded arena or stadium, I assume that women are going to come into the men’s lav. I find it a little off-putting when the facility has urinal troughs rather than urinals, but I guess that’s just how it is. They come in knowing what they’re going to see. (BTW, the ladies invariably find a stall ASAP and get in and out quickly. I do appreciate that.)
New architecture standards and building codes are taking this into account and requiring women’s lavs to have as much as 50% more space than the men’s. I think if I were designing a facility I’d just create unisex lavatories: all stalls and washstands.
As to cleanliness, back in my college days I worked a summer job as a groundskeeper in a County recreation area. The grounds crew was off on the weekends (busiest time of use – what were they thinking?) and I didn’t look forward to cleaning the women’s lavatory in my section of the park on Mondays. It was invariably pitted out and disgusting.
I’ve compared notes with others who have worked in jobs requiring cleaning lavatories and heard similar reports. As a result, when Mrs Strad and I are traveling, and I find the Men’s lav nasty I can know as sure as the sun sets in the West that I’ll hear about what a filthy place the Women’s was from her.
From the descriptions I have read, this was a sneak attack on the order of Pearl Harbor. It was twelve hours from the gavel that opened the special session to the Governor’s signature on the bill.
The bill was drawn up by the Republican leadership of the state legislature, and obviously was handled under their rules for emergency legislation. There were no committee hearings at all and no testimony from anyone.
So there was no way to mobilize the opposition to get to Gov McCrory ahead of this.