The question of citizenship has been on EVERY census in the lasts 120 years. With the exception of the 2010 census, when it was removed for partisan political reasons. The census which is out of step with the long term situation is the 2010 census. Asking the question is a normal part of the census, and it should be returned to the questionnaire.
https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/index_of_questions/1950_population.html
The link you (nickdanger) provided does not support your assertion. There is a difference between the census itself, which goes to all, and an additional questionnaire that is sent to a much smaller subset or sample of people
Have Wilbur Rossās scandals already gone down the memory hole?
Um, Nick, donāt you ever get tired of being wrong? As edgarant points out, you are confusing the census form with the supplemental questionnaire. You were so eager to score points that you failed, again, to actually check your source and, as a result, you once again stepped in it.
Better to be thought a fool than to continue to post here and prove it.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders:
āThis is a question thatās been included in every census since 1965,ā Sanders said Tuesday, āwith the exception of 2010, when it was removed.ā
Wow, Nick, you bested the lyinā king. That makes you the new pride leader.
SHS was a little confused, though, as there wasnāt a full census in 1965. The NPR fact checkers tell us that the last time the question went to all households was in 1950:
The census has been conducted every decade since 1790 to get a national head count used most critically to decide the distribution of congressional representation. At first it was conducted by U.S. marshals, but later surveys were sent to most American households, with census workers helping those who didnāt promptly return their surveys.
The last time the Census Bureau asked all U.S. households a question about U.S. citizenship was in 1950. That form asked where each person was born and in a follow-up question asked, āIf foreign born ā Is he naturalized?ā
In 1960, there was no such question about citizenship, only about place of birth.
Sanders mentioned the year 1965 on Tuesday, but the census only comes every 10 years, so it isnāt clear what she was referring to, and the White House did not respond to a request for clarification.
In 1970, the Census Bureau began sending around two questionnaires: a short-form questionnaire to gather basic population information and a long form that asked detailed questions about everything from household income to plumbing. The short form went to most households in America. The long form was sent to a much smaller sample of households, 1 in 6. Most people didnāt get it.
Starting in 1970, questions about citizenship were included in the long-form questionnaire but not the short form. For instance, in 2000, those who received the long form were asked, āIs this person a CITIZEN of the United States?ā
The short form kept it simple: name, relationship, age, sex, Hispanic origin, race, marital status and whether the home is owned or rented.
Later, the census added the American Community Survey, conducted every year and sent to 3.5 million households. It began being fully implemented in 2005. It asks many of the same questions as the census long-form surveys from 1970 to 2000, including the citizenship question.
Sanders said that in 2010 the citizenship question was removed. In fact, there was no long form that year ā it had been replaced by the annual American Community Survey. The decennial census form asked just 10 questions.
Never mind the research indicating that it produces less accurate results than does the alternative now in use, right? Trolls gotta troll.
The question, nick, is why you insist on posting factless bullshit. You may not have figured it out yet, but TPM actually has readers with actual knowledge and experience. It isnāt Daily Crying Caller. Or did you get it wrong and youāre actually nickdumbo ? Either way, when it sounds like a Trumpie sucker and writes like a Trumpie sucker, canāt be anyone except a sucker to the con. Dear Leader salutes you.
Youād think nick would actually read the story, But, like Dead Leader, thereās all those words! Perhaps TPM needs a 5 or less bullet point version so he could yammer talking points and think heās smart. Best brains ā¦ from the Abbie Normal shelf.
Does the administration want an accurate census? I doubt it.
I agree, neither Agent Orangeās administration nor Repubs in general wants an accurate census, especially if they can selectively exclude those they are likely to vote for Dems.
This is just another attempt to brow beat the āotherā, but with the added ābenefitā of undercounting Dem precincts so they get fewer govt resources that are tied to the census
You hit one of my major word usage complaints. Downfall means a sudden loss of power or status or the like. Downside, means the negative side of a particular plan or action. Iāve been seeing this more and more lately. They are both perfectly good words with useful but different meanings.
So they lied about the reason for wanting to ask the question, and now thereās direct research showing that asking it would harm the accuracy of the count that is their statutory obligation. Why these people arenāt in jail I donāt know.
(Well, yes, I do.)
Thing is, accuracy is not really the Administrationās concern. What they really want is an undercount of Latino communities. This question would certainly achieve that. If accuracy suffers, itās only in relation to people they donāt want here in the first place. Reduce the representation proportion in Congress of urban areas, reduce federal funding to those areas ā problem solved!
Keep the Wilbur Ross fires burningā¦he is a James Bond caliber villian without the charm or intellect.
He sounds like Deputy Dog (Dogg?) whenever he speaks.
I just want to give a shout-out to the professional research staff at Census. It takes guts to write and release the paper that NPR reported on (and a shout out to NPR for careful reporting on this wonky but important subject). The Census Bureau has a long tradition of high-quality non-partisan and scantily-funded work that is crucial to understanding our society. I hope they survive Trumpocalypse.
And a willingness to be reassigned to āfield work,ā probably in some really bad neighborhoods.
The vindictiveness of this so-called administration should never be underestimated.
Ross was also warned that the adding the question risks an undercount among immigrant populations.
Jesus-Titty-Fucking-Christ. The decennial census already has a net undercount, and has since the first census in 1790. The problem is that the undercount is not a missing-at-random phenomenon. There is a differential undercount: minorities, the poor, and the homeless are missed at a considerably higher rate than wealthy whites. In fact, wealthy whites appear to be overcounted. (Because the census is a mail-in census, someone who receives mail in multiple locations will likely receive census forms in multiple locations. If they return all of the forms and donāt follow instructions to note secondary addresses they can be overcounted.)
Iām sure this is viewed as a feature rather than a bug by the Gang of Old Pedophiles.
So, whereās Jeff Dunham? Shouldnāt he be behind him moving his mouth?
