Discussion: McGahn Hits Back At Giuliani: What I Told Mueller Was 'Accurately Described'

Oh, snap!
Short and sweet.

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I wonder if this was/is Nancy’s plan all along? We don’t need to take him out, Trump will piss off those closest to him and take him out for us?

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I think, though inevitable -especially for political strategists -, it’s a mistake to look at the process of impeachment through strictly a political lens. That can’t be what our founders intended. My belief is that impeachment is a safety valve built in to the system for those rare cases where treason, high crimes or misdemeanors are involved, especially if they’re a threat to the Republic. I don’t think there’s any doubt we’ve crossed that threshold. And if the people in Indiana don’t realize that (and I don’t know that they don’t), it’s still not a valid reason not to proceed.

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Thank you and I know but it still enrages me. And, yes, we do need to go “through” it because it’s the goddamn law and we are trying to save our country. As if the GOP wouldn’t do this in a heartbeat (well, they would’ve done it on Day 2 of HRC in the WH).

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I’m not at all positive they don’t either. People have paid attention to this presidency - the man scares way more Americans than you and me.

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McGahn is now a partner at Jones Day.

Apr 4, 2019 - Jones Day, which was Donald Trump’s campaign law firm in 2016 and has provided at least 17 lawyers to his administration, has been hit with a $200 million lawsuit that accuses it of being “openly misogynistic” and engaging in “sexualized comments and conduct.”

Sounds like a good fit for him. He’ll feel right at home.

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““It’s a mystery why Rudy Giuliani feels the need to re-litigate
incidents the attorney general and deputy attorney general have
concluded were not obstruction,” the statement reads”

What is, “He’s as dumb as his client” for 100, Alex.

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Rudy is still trying to figure out if “re-litigate” is a real word.

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I have to admit that I find a couple of things about the release of the Meuller report very curious. First, why did Barr make such outright, verifiably false statements about what was in the report, especially just before the report was to be released? I realize that politicians lie, but usually they’re clever enough to tell lies that merely spin the truth. They tell half truths, issue non-denial denials and so forth.

For someone who is a longtime veteran of the DOJ to make such bald-faced lies, both on national TV and in an official document sent to Congress is a bit unusual to say the least.

Second, why did Barr allow so much of the unredacted report through? especially while he was publicly denying what the report actually said? It doesn’t seem likely that he would have assumed most people would have taken his word and not read the report itself. Say what you will about Barr being a partisan hack, I don’t believe he’s a complete idiot.

So why did he screw this up so badly? I don’t know, but I do have a theory.

My guess is that, when Rosenstein and Mueller saw that Barr was going to be their new boss, they realized that he had been hired to bury the report, and they weren’t going to let that happen. So they hatched a plot.

When the report was finished, Rosenstein summarized it for Barr in a way that made it look much more generous to Trump than it really was. He didn’t lie about it, he just omitted some of the nastier details. When Barr heard that the report didn’t implicate Trump for collusion and Mueller failed to reach a conclusion on obstruction he was so happy that he didn’t bother to check the facts by reading the whole report himself.

Basically, he fell into the trap of believing without question exactly what he wanted to hear. Rosenstein told him “no collusion and no verdict on obstruction,” and Barr ran with this. When someone hears exactly what they wish to believe when given ambiguous or incomplete information, it’s called confirmation bias. It’s a dangerous trap that even disciplined scientists will fall into at times.

Once Barr heard exactly what he wanted to hear, he stopped asking questions and started writing his summary based on what he thought the report said. All Rosenstein had to do at this point was forget to correct Barr on any of the “little” details in his summery.

Okay, now that Barr thinks the Mueller report has cleared Trump, there’s no point in burying it, right? Why bury a report that says exactly what you want it to say? So, all that needs to be done is to find someone who can edit it for redactions. Who better to do this than Rod Rosenstein?

Barr gets on TV for his little press conference where he thinks he’s rubbing the Democrats’ noses in what he believes the report says then, boom, the actual report is released. I don’t think Barr ever saw this coming. What’s more, I don’t think he’ll keep his job much longer either. He was hired to bury the Mueller report and, not only did he fail miserably at that, he made a complete ass of himself while trying.

Well played Mr. Rosenstein, very well played (if my theory is correct).

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When all you have is “lost his mind years ago” Giuliani shilling for you things are dire, indeed. :smirk:

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Though he could get mentioned any day now, Spicer (he gave testimony) also kept notes (notebooks).

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We are poised to unleash a torrent of info (all of it BAD) about Trump. I agree with you about Trump’s behavior.

Think back to Watergate…Nixon actually went before the American People with a conciliatory, reasonable
delivery. That is impossible for Trump. That puts Trump at a tremendous disadvantage.

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“It could be the product of an inaccurate recollection or could be the product of something else,

Sure thing, Rudes, it could be. Similarly, you could be what you look like: an evil undead vampiric shyster who feasts on the souls of the unborn so as to gain the tremendous brain power it takes to produce your propaganda.

I know which one I think is more likely.

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That is the worst kind of pandering.

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I know a number of high-profile lawyers (IIIRC Lawrence Tribe was at least one of them) have filed ethics complaints with the New York Bar Association. He also had one filed with the Washington DC Bar Association for practicing within its jurisdiction without a license.

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McGahn needs to be brought to a public hearing under oath and questioned by a seasoned criminal prosecutor hired by the Dems.

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McGahn, Preibus, Hope, and the gang were all dropping acid. Duh. Everyone knows that.

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