Discussion: Manchin Is First Dem To Announce He Will Vote To Confirm Gorsuch To SCOTUS

Facts. Pesky sumbitches, ain’t they?

I’m still pretty optimistic that Dems are going to filibuster, but I never believed they’d do it en masse. I always assumed there’d be a few stragglers and I figured Heitkamp and Manchin would be the two.

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It shouldn’t be too hard to get out in front of this by saying you couldn’t vote for a man that would let a trucker freeze just because his boss said so.

For some inexplicable reason, it seems to be impossibly difficult for Democrats to articulate just why in the fuck they’re Democrats in the first place. Literally EVERY measure that has even marginally improved the lives of West Virginians over the last 75 years has been put into place by the Democratic Party, and the vast majority of those measures have been fought tooth and nail by Republicans.

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Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND) on Thursday announced separately that they will vote next week to confirm Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. They are so far the only Democrats to announce support for Gorsuch.

At long last, Mitch “Dorothy Kilgallen” McConnell has a Manchin.

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In case anyone wonders why I support for the DNC/DSCC/DCCC pumping in tons of money to help moderate Dems get elected -

it’s because there aren’t enough places a liberal democrat can get elected to get to 50 and, thus, have a majority in the senate. It’s about CONTROL. Sheez!

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redundant

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Manchin is going to lose regardless of how he votes. That said, I get so sick of liberals (I’m one) whining that we shouldn’t support centrist democrats in red states. It’s as if they don’t understand the significance of having a majority, without which we can do NOTHING!

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Didn’t surprise me

Now it raises up that Carte Godwin challenge question/speculation again, but such is life.

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“After doing my due diligence by meeting with Judge Gorsuch and reviewing his record and testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, I’ve decided to repudiate everything the Democratic Party has stood for since the New Deal because I’m afraid I’ll be attacked as a liberal. In hopes that this will save me in a red state, I’ve decided to vote in favor of his confirmation. From now until November 2018 I’ll be hiding under my desk in my official Democratic Defensive Crouch®.”

FIFY, Heidi.

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" Manchin is a true “DINO.” Hopefully he’ll get thrown out at his next election."

Yes. Everybody knows it’s better to have a tea party senator than a DINO.

::eye roll::

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Just leave the party, you fucking Quislings.

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I am ashamed to admit I was born there/

Living in his part of the country, I can say with full confidence that absolutely no argument for voting against PP’s pick will resonate. None. Anything and everything that somehow challenges anything he does, the people around him, his decisions, etc. is immediately discarded as fake news. Plus, I bet his hope is that if he can stay of PP’s radar next year, maybe he’ll have a fighting chance.

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Agreed on this. I honestly think that if it’s a choice between him or Heitkamp getting re-elected, it’ll be her. I understand why he’s doing this but I just don’t think it’s going to work. He doesn’t satisfy either Dems or Rethugs so I think this seat is gone from Dems for the foreseeable future.

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Too bad Goodwin didn’t serve with Senator Lincoln from Arkansas; they could have co-sponsored a Carte-Blanche bill.

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Oh, please. The whole republican party is pro-corporate. Doesn’t stop poor whites from supporting them up and down the ballot.

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She said that she expects Gorsuch to “follow through” as a check on the executive and legislative branches.

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“This vote does not diminish how disturbed I am by what Republicans did to Judge Garland. Senate Republicans played politics at its worst,” Heitkamp said. “But I was taught that two wrongs don’t make a right.”

You know I get why they might vote this way to protect their seats, but it is possible to do that with out throwing in an aside about how the rest of the party is wrong for not voting for him. She started out good by recognizing that what happened to Garland was bull shit, but then she had to diverge into false equivalency territory. By talking about the filibuster as an equal bad, instead of something that she, say, disagreed with, but understood, she missed an opportunity to vote as she needed to to appease her voters at home while still showing some solidarity with the rest of the party.

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Of all the red state dems who I think actually have the skills to survive, I think he stands the best chance. He survived running on the same ticket with scary black president who is scary in one of Romney’s best states.

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That’s why i’m not mad at him.

Nelson on the other hand…

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Thought the headline read “Two Democrats…” but then it listed Manchin and Heitkamp so which is it?

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