So, the person who posts a response to the randomly capitalized, several paragraph screed against Clinton in a lighthearted story isn’t the problem? Nope, it’s the person telling that person to chill. Sanders logic!
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I really wish you did not bring up unicorns, as that is the focus of a huge controversy and dilemma that is threatening to split up the Democratic Party and pit well-meaning liberals against each other.
I’m speaking of the recent experiment of Monsanto, scourge of righteous liberals everywhere, and their laboratory-raised unicorn that was developed through the use of GMO – genetically modified organisms – technology.
Down with GMOs and genetically modified Frankenfoods! Freedom for free-range unicorns!
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How many times and on how many threads have you posted this same comment now?
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No, the GoET schtick is also very tedious.
This was a really good example of mansplaining for those who seriously have a difficult time understanding how that works and why its so offensive. If we could only get beltway pundits, who are the biggest purveyors of that kind of bullshit to take some ownership for purposely mansplaining Clinton to their audiences by taking some real heat for their sexist idiocy, that would be the ultimate satisfaction.
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Are you twelve? Just learning about politics? A Bernie supporter? I love Bernie but listen up…he never had to give a Wall Street speech or anything else to a major corporation because he is from VERMONT. The ‘big’ money there is different. Hillary was a Senator from New York…you know, Wall Street. She was SOS. She is former First Lady. Her profile has always been higher than a Congressman/Senator from VT. If you don’t ‘understand’ that, maybe you shouldn’t keep trying to weigh in…you look silly.
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It’s funny because my 'bagger brother was a year behind me in school, so I know he mostly had the same teachers as I did. He also read - mostly military history and historical novels, but he did read. But when he posted on FB he used the same random caps/exclamation points/single-word sentence thing that all the other 'baggers use. I always thought it was weird.
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And your point is?
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Oh, this is an absolutely classic, epic example of critical thinking and over-simplification failure. Why? Because you have no clue about the fundamental difference in meaning between “truth/facts” and “opinions”. Clue for you: What you want to desperately believe is not a “fact”. As someone famously said, “Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.”
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No. The person telling the other person to chill wasn’t the problem. That is why I didn’t respond to them. I responded to the person who decided to say that ‘Sanderistas’ don’t know how to chill and proceeded to mock all Sanders supporters instead of the one nutjob who was the problem. He was using Trump logic. I see one person who is my enemy, so I am going to carpet bomb their entire country and their friends and family.
What I said was for everyone to calm down. Even if the post I replied to was an actual response to the original problem, ‘he started it’ is not a valid reason to start an escalating pie fight. When you lie down with pigs, after all.
I tried to de-escalate the situation, without criticizing the positions of the poster in anyway. If encouraging party unity and trying to get everyone to work against the GOP and toward our common goals is Sander’s logic, then yeah, I guess I am guilty of Sander’s logic. And I know that, on most days, you are to. Let’s not fall into infighting like the GOP wants us to.
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Alright.
Real talk time then: your argument states that ALL lobbyists and their money/influence is bad and that any candidate who accepts their money or even listens to them is complicit in the weakening of our democracy? What about lobbyists who support progressive causes? Are they villainous too? Do some get a pass? Which? Who is the judge?
Perhaps an even more important question: how is a candidate with no monetary backing supposed to go up against the Republican Money Machine? Ideals are great, but ideals alone can’t defeat powerful, monied Republican backers.
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Although I am critical of Hillary’s foreign policies, she does get hit for some stupid shit. This:
Even though George Bush started two wars he couldn’t finish, one in the wrong country, let the economy crash, allowed a major American city to drown, lied to both Congress and the United Nations about the presence of WMD’s in Iraq, allowed North Korea to get nuclear weapons and took them off the state terrorism watch list, forgave Qaddafi for blowing up one of our airliners over Scotland, committed absolutely illegal acts of surveillance against the 4th Amendment, promoted torture, destroyed any chance of peace in the Middle East for a generation, handed Iraq over to Iran, allowed the kidnapping of people all over the world by the CIA for rendition to countries where they could be tortured, established a twilight prison in a foreign country for prisoners under indefinite detention with no right to trial or habeas corpus . . . still, Hillary Clinton is the worst person ever and belongs in jail because she used an unsecured email server. - Sean Bean, a/k/a Ned Stark.
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I completely agree. Humor can often be the best way to teach and reach folks. Maybe they can show this in journalism schools everywhere?
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A few times, in the past, I’ve tried to “advise Mrs. Von Holst on matters of mutual concern and importance” [1]. But she mostly just stared at me and decided she needed to go out for a walk. It took me a while to learn to wait for her to ask me for my input. But on the other hand, It did wonders for her health and fitness.
[1] Mansplaining.
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Have you tried free range unicorn? mmmmmm a little slaw and some Blues Pig bbq sauce … sooooo good.
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Didn’t recognize this as cut and paste the first time I saw this. My response is much the same: So when the two candidates voted together 93 percent of the time one person’s votes were bought and one person’s votes were pure?
Since both the economy,and Wall Street have a history of doing better under Democrats it may have dawned on part of Wall Street that they are better off getting big investmentnreturns as opposed to tax favors from Trump and the GOP.
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It’s getting weird over there.
My sister started out not two months ago saying she liked both and would vote for whichever got the nomination. Now’s she posting conspiracy theories of Clinton stealing Arizona and stating Hillary is just Romney in a pantsuit.
It’s almost cult-like.
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That’s all well and good, but I’m really tired of the calls for unity from Sanders supporters right after they criticize a Clinton supporter for defending their candidate. It’s bullshit. It might come off as less condescending and patronizing if you tried getting your own side in order instead of criticizing others for defending the Democratic candidate. Because from where I’m sitting, we’re not on the same side. I’m on the side of getting Democrats elected, come hell or high water. Others, particularly many, many Sanders’ supporters are on the side of trashing the likely Democratic nominee at every turn. That’s not the same side.
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BRAVO! Whoops…I hope I don’t get hit by the upper case police.
Anyway, perfectly stated…and so true!
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Or Hillary’s dirty and dishonest campaigning is obvious to the most casual observer, even while it is totally invisible to the all the Clinton sycophants. They think they are winning the argument, but they are actually driving away votes that will not be seen again until 2020. Well maybe some will show up in favor of Trump.
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