Discussion: Key Industry Groups Blast Amended Obamacare Repeal Bill

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The only way to improve O-Care is to insure more for less, not less for more. Medicare for all!

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Ryan is desperate to deliver this vote before opposition can be organized and the CBO can inform voters of the certain disaster that is this vote.

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American Hospital Association:

“The amendment proposed this week would dramatically worsen the bill. The changes included put consumer protections at greater risk.”

American Medical Association:

”We are deeply concerned that the AHCA would result in millions of Americans losing their current health insurance coverage.”

“The most distressing thing that can happen to a prophet is to be proved wrong. The next most distressing thing is to be proved right.” – Aldous Huxley

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Maybe the House Freedom Caucus should be renamed the House Death Panel Caucus?

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How do these key industry groups even know what they are blasting? The Conservative Affordable Care Act (CACA) seems to be changing every five minutes, getting more and more tangled, twisted, and depraved as it goes.

Drumpf’s fault.

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“Certain types of loudmouthism should be a capital offense among decent people.”
― Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Mr. Ryan, you are hereby charged with a capital offense.

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“Although the MacArthur Amendment states that the ban on preexisting conditions remains intact, this assurance may be illusory as health status underwriting could effectively make coverage completely unaffordable to people with preexisting conditions,”

That is the crux of the problem, the difference between the GOP promise of access to health care and the receipt of affordable health care. The higher cost of providing health care to people with preexisting conditions is not in dispute. If the goal is to provide this segment of the population with affordable coverage the additional cost must be spread across a large pool of contributors. Under the ACA that pool is composed of all policy holders. If a state run high risk pool is going to provide the same benefit then the cost will be spread across all taxpayers. Same cost, different allocation process. Unfortunately, the Ryan/GOP goal is not to provide the same coverage to the high risk pool but only to provide some coverage. As Madera said, the entire charade is illusory.

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Pesky facts getting in the way of Randism

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Which is Reason #3,915: Why Paul Ryan is a Moron. He may be able to jam this ridiculous bill through the House, but it’s DOA in the Senate. And his members are gonna be on record having voted for the wretched thing.

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Funny that as the deception of the bill increases and the plan gets worse, that is what has attracted the Freedom Kids.

I may be wrong but I’m saying that this is massive face plant #2 for Ryan, Trumpp and the whole damned Party.

They aren’t even close.

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True, and as stupid as Ryan is, PP is even dumber and more vindictive. Instead of tabling the thing and waiting to put forth a plan that stands any chance of passing, they’ll just keep on rearing forward like the bull in a bullfight. Figuratively speaking, Republicans will come out of this about as well as the bull does.

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I know. I mean is it worse to not do this by the 100 day mark which Trumpp either really cares about or doesn’t depending on the tweet or is it worse to be totally humiliated once again nationally and globally.
The answer seems obvious to me.

It’s a lose/lose because it not only won’t be an accomplishment it will also be a failure

Plus, its dragging down the whole Party and making them extremely vulnerable come '18. Did they already forget the town halls?

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Hey if they like it, It has to be great. Amirite?

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Please stop calling any of these Republicans moderates or centrists. They are neither.

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That’s the lament of the “moderates” in the other TPM posting on this topic. “This isn’t helpful” and “If I vote for this healthcare bill it will be the end of my career” are not ringing endorsements. Party loyalty vs. enraged constituents is going to cause some sleepless nights for those GOPers who are not is safely gerrymandered districts.

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The two major medical associations have come out more against than the first POS they attempted.
CBO hasn’t scored it yet and I believe that that is a must.

The Freedom Boys only are getting on board because its starting to really hurt some people and that is their wheelhouse.

The plan sucks period. Passing it to say they did is a bad move that will only push the pain on to the ® Senators and then it will fail after they’re all well tainted.

Basically, touching O-care is toxic for the (R’s) but they are so close to being able to really hurt America that they just can’t help themselves.

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I think it would be great to get all these Freedom Caucus members on record of taking healthcare away from 24 million Americans. Go for it republicans. Yes, please do it so you can make it happen for democrats to take the house and Senator back in 2018.

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I am interested in whether this amendment/plan as proposed could even be constitutional. For example, is there any human with a brain who thinks that, with this “waiver” crap, a citizen of Alabama will have the same protections and coverages under this FEDERAL program as would a citizen of California? The proposal guarantees a lack of equal protection under the law.

For examp[le, this proposal would basically say it is ok in one state - one where I suspect the state legislature is right wing - to allow children to die for lack of medical care coverage that, were the parents living in an adjacent state (one where the legislature believes in fairness and justice), would be available to that child because the state requires it to be covered under the parents’ health plan.

How can ANYONE think this is the kind of thing America stands for?

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