Discussion: Key House GOPer Can't Decipher Trump On Immigration: 'Who Really Knows?'

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“I have not liked the tone of the Trump campaign on this issue,” Diaz Balart said adding Clinton’s record hasn’t been better.

Yet, no examples, dude?

“Math doesn’t lie,” he added

No fuck, Mr. Diaz-Balart, no fuck. And this fall, math is not your friend, sir.

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Trump: My immigration policy is simple, its whatever you want it to be. It meets everyone’s needs at all times. It shows openness of my leadership.

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"The folks on the fringes get more entrenched on both sides of this issue.”

See!!

Both sides do it!!!

(barfs)

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No “maybe” about it…

I doubt they have any to give…

No shit, Sherlock. But since a sizeable chunk of the GOP live in Cloud-Cuckoo-Land, where math, science and commonsense are anathemas, this has no significance or bearing on the issues at hand.

…which will help ensure that there will be no more lessons learned from this time around than from 2012…

I am of two minds here: 1) yay! the GOP will continue to shoot itself in the foot at the White House level, good for us, and 2) the lack of learning by the GOP means at the state and local level, it will take even longer before a shift back to reality will take place, which is ultimately destructive for us all…

Sigh. How much longer to November???

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Geez, you don’t actually expect them to base their allegations on facts now, do you???

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Paul Ryan, problem solver?
I see the problems, but I don’t see the solving.

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I know; I’m kinda, like, old-fashioned that way – base my values on truth, kindness to strangers, honesty from the heart, doing unto others, etc. … see, some of that old Bible stuff did stick with me (just not the stuff about killing your perceived enemies, amassing riches untold, raping my daughters, owning slaves (or being one, for that matter). I know many people like this Diaz-Balart guy want us to live in those old days, I prefer to make my own where we’re all equal before the law and have certain non-negotiable rights.

Even though I do not consider myself Christian (I am non-theist), there is no way in hell I consider any GOPer a follower of Christ.

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“Who really knows?” WGAS?

It’s a honorable thing to try and find a bi-partisan solution to immigration policy. Trump has no solutions except for bullying and threatening.

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Maybe, he fears, Trump doesn’t really understand its complexities.

Ya think?

Trump spent the primary campaign convincing most Americans that he doesn’t have what it takes to be President of the United States. Now he is demonstrating that he doesn’t even know what it takes to be President of the United States.

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This a lie. He knows. The record is clear.

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His brother is a host/newsreader on MSNBC AND Telemundo. He knows Trump is a fraud, He just can’t admit to himself he has wasted his political life supporting a party whose base loathes him and his people

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Mario Diaz Balart is a Profile in Cowardice. I have no particular knowledge of his congressional district but it would seem he is afraid of and pandering to the aging and dying minority of the Cuban community that still hate JFK because he did not start WW3 by deploying the USAF in support of the Bay of Pigs invasion, hate the Clintons because WJC returned Elian Gonzalez to his father in Cuba, rather than allow him to be raised by his crackpot relatives in Miami, and hate Obama because he released US policy towards Cuba from this minority’s stranglehold after 56 years.
Another Cuban congresswoman who caters to that constituency, Ileana Ross-Lehtinen, had the courage to denounce Trump and say she does not support him. Yet, Mario Diaz Balart, who is the closest thing to an immigration policy expert the GOP has these days (remember GOP policy experts, like Richard Lugar?) says he is going to vote for Trump anyway, because false equivalencies and “Clinton is no better” and believes that one of these years, if he wishes hard enough upon a star, radio talk show immigrant haters John & Ken will come around and sing Kumbaya on Latino immigrants, not because it is the morally right thing, but because the GOP cannot win nationally without Latino votes.
Someone contact Caroline Kennedy to include a chapter on Mario Diaz-Balart in a future re-edition of her father’s book, (s).

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Diaz-Balart on Trump: “He may be a RWNJ, but he’s OUR RWNJ!”

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Paul Ryan, “well respected leader”? Are there no fact-checkers at TPM?

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IIRC, Ileana Ross-Lehtinen also broke ranks with FL’s conservative Cuban GOPers on gay rights, marriage, etc. (if this is true, I tip my hat to her for at least that). I’ve heard her name through the years, but haven’t paid that close attention to her. While living on the West Coast, a boss and friend of mine (she’s Argentinian) told me that, by and large, the Cuban community in FL thought of themselves as a special breed apart from the other Hispanics and Spanish-speakers in the U.S. LOL, I can still hear her: “They look down their noses at us, when the reality is the rest of us consider them trash.” She was speaking in general terms. I didn’t know many Cuban-Americans, and the ones I did were gay boys, acquaintances, a boyfriend. Me being a Southern white boy, I’d had a different take. LOL.

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Anytime I read “even though they disagree or condemn his behavior, because of party loyalty, they still plan to vote for Trump”; no matter what seemingly logical and truly sensible proposal they are trying to put forth it all becomes an insincere delusional farce because you can’t take a rotten turd and make it a golden nugget, no matter how much you try to paint and polish it.

It just becomes an awful, awful mess.

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“Either way, Diaz-Balart, whose parents were Cuban, still plans to vote for Trump, caught in a wringer between his party loyalty and his signature legislative issue.”

That Diaz-Balart refuses to buck the party leadership is in no small way why the GOP has gone so far off base. Sadly I can point to members of either party and ask, why do you think this is acceptable?

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“Math doesn’t lie," Diaz-Balart said. “If you are going to be the majority party, you are going to have to attract a majority of the American people."

Ryan’s math lies and Republicans have pursued white males who for years were the majority, but are no longer and so hopefully soon politicians that use truthful math and enact policies that help a majority of americans regardless of gender and race will take over the Republican party…I’m not holding my breath though.

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