Any respect I had remaining for Chuck Todd has gone away in the past week
As someone who doesn’t practice religion (I grew up in a religious house and went to religious schools, but stopped practicing once I was on my own), I wish these politicians would just STFU about religion. I don’t want your religion forced upon me. If someone wants to practice religion, fine. Just keep it private and personal, OK?
I wonder if any of our not so esteemed political press will ever notice that Kasich’s plan is to 1) “teach” the cultures that actually spawned and co-existed with Judaism and Christianity longer than the U.S. has even existed; and 2) to export “Judeo-Christian” values that are not in the Torah or the Bible (e.g., women’s equality and religious freedom) but are in fact liberal values?
Is he excluding extremist Christians???
Clap clap clap
“And if you had read more carefully what you would have noticed is that I’ve invited moderate Muslims into this discussion as well,” Kasich said.
And some of my friends are black.
These politicians are using religion to promote themselves. It is very disgusting. I mean they condemn a group like ISIS using the Islamic religion to recruit their terrorism and fear which is justified, and yet at the same time some republicans are using the Christian religion in promoting fear of the Islamic religion which is not justified. Of course these republicans are not saying go out an kill Muslims, but their rhetoric is getting very scary.
Christian fascists dragging the Jews into their fantasy in an attempt to appear inclusive. With a big boost from Bibi.
Kasich and his cohorts need a good constitutional law course. They are just lost on the origins and meaning of the constitution which had nothing to do with religion and guaranteed freedom from it in government. If you followed these GOP dopes this country would end up like Israel except government here would be based on crackpot xtiNity even the pope does not recognize as a religion. .No thanks.
"Chuck you need to calm down," Kasich said.
or, “Simma down nah”
He really is trying to break in to the conversation - quite sure he got the most speak-time at last R debate 'cuz he kept inserting, asserting and reinserting himself with interuptions.
Why would moderate Muslims want to join an effort to spread so-called Judeo-Christian values?
i know its Kasich versus Todd
but will it ever beat this moment?
I had long held that Kasich might be the one (R) who has the wherewithal to get traction and take the (R) nomination-- under normal circumstances.
That we have the Trumplalalooza instead-- means a different kind of crazy-- that Kasich has no gameplan for.
Kasich is a somewhat believable snake-in-the-grass-- but he’ll never get the chance to sell himself in the General Election.
jw1
What if the “stop Trump” movement reported yesterday gains traction? Might not the traditional R’s elevate Kasich over Jeb! or young-Mario?
Then he might well receive the nomination.
But with Trump running as the
independent Make America Hate Again™-party candidate–
Kasich still loses, likely worse than in a head-to-head.
jw1
From the most reasonable one of the bunch… Next November these guys are gonna get wiped out by Hillary and again in '24 by Gavin Newsome
Because nothing wins an argument more than minimizing and talking down to your interlocutor.
They’re terrified, but not of terrorists. They’re terrified that the population is becoming increasingly less white, and increasingly less Xtian, which is threatening their power and ability to become rich and rule the world. They should be.
What about other American religions, like Buddhism, that account for a good percentage of the educated and artistic in this country, and all those whose ancestors brought it with them from Asia?
Let alone actual First Nations religion, or the nature religion of the nation’s founders, thinly veiled in Christianity at best?
And excepting those who fell into islamophobic neocon New Atheism, all those with the courage to doubt it all, yet do great good in the world?
Maybe if Voice of America taught Thoreau’s (et. al.'s) transcendentalism, that might be OK?
But the I-Me-My of Christian fundamentalism, which as Tillich explains is not fundamentalism but ill-educated 19th century revivalism, is only toxic, an expression of poisonous ignorance, not enlightened spiritual realization, and it is our shame, not our gift to the world.