“Greg Orman has no desire to help Mr. Kobach,” Orman communications director Nicholas Connors told TPM in an email. “Any person who is pushing that narrative is looking to manipulate journalists and voters to undermine the Orman campaign.”
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Thank You Mr, Nader , Thank you Ms… Stein for you inspiration on fighting for a hopeless cause and adversely affecting the outcome of an election because reasons
Orman is channeling his inner Elliot Cutler, who was so helpful in putting Paul LePage in the Maine governor’s mansion and keeping him there for a couple terms.
Third party choice has to start locally – it’s clear by now that you can’t waltz in at the executive level. Orman seems to be another businessman oozing money and hubris who thinks he can $trategize his way into office.
Run for PTA president first, Greg.
A vanity candidate?
Swinging a close election?
Beause vanity candidates are made for vanity voters, whose solution to any binary choice is “sorry, not good enough for me either?”
Because pride in rejecting the choice outweighs any possible evil that the choice could have prevented?
{scratches head}
Nope. Can’t think of that ever happening …
Why don’t these “failed two-party system” trolls ever run a campaign on a proposal to introduced ranked voting or proportional representation or other reforms that would make a multi-party system feasible.
“Republicans and Democrats are entitled to nothing” Yea, libertarian pot dealers ain’t entitled to nothing either, this is a bullshit framing. Parties are there to be used, as in the old saying, they’re bastards but they’re our bastards.
If Orman doen’t want to help Kobach, then why is he in the race in which he won’t get anymore than 10% of the vote.
Who are the 9-10% and what the fuck is wrong with them? I know…Kansas, my aunt & uncle live there. Real Dems should know better so it must the indies. GOTV Kansas Dems and drown this bullshit.
Sent a message to my uncle to get some local feedback.
If I remember correctly, the Democratic candidate dropped out of the last Senatorial election to give Orman a better chance to win, which he did not. I guess Orman doesn’t believe in returning favors. POS who is giving “moderate” Republicans and Independents an excuse to not vote for Kelly.
Dumb white folk?
I know a few actual liberals who are registered independent I guess because admitting the party that embodies their values is the Democratic one is embarassing.
If I hear “there is no difference between the parties” one more time my head will explode.
I haven’t heard much from Orman in the last several weeks. Kelly’s biggest problem is she isn’t on the air nearly as often as Kobach. She needs money to buy ads and she needs it big time. Once people are reminded that Kobach is a Brownback follower and that he thinks Kansas schools are over funded they think about Kelly but Kobach’ dark money pacs are spending millions selling the idea that Kelly is a tax and spend liberal who wants to put Kansas in the poor house.
Instead of wringing hands about Orman, Democrats ought to be pouring money to Kelly. She is a really good candidate and would make a great governor.
While Democrats should not give Orman much ink, some attention should be paid to pointing out that he might as well be a Republican plant, and to educating Kansas voters to the examples of Elliot Cutler and Jill Stein, and the harm they did.
You make a good point, but this year I find it necessary to channel my limited cash to Democrats running for Congress and the Senate.
Here in Kansas, I know a good many Democrats who register Republican so they can vote in Republican primaries. The rationale is that in many cases it’s their only chance to influence the political process.
I’ve lived in Wichita for almost fifteen years now, and a number of people I respect are saying that Orman is just as likely hurting Kobach. Think of it this way: he gives the “moderate” Republicans who never would have voted for Kelly anyway a chance to not have to vote for Ko(Brown)bach.
I think Laura Kelly is running a good campaign, about the best that a female Democrat could run statewide in an historically red state. It’s not clear to me that Orman is hurting Kelly. KS is a GOP state and the way I see it, those GOP leaning women who are turned off by Kobach would make the leap to Kelly but those GOP men who don’t like him (perhaps white collar types) would go to Orman before they’d go to Kelly. There’s a certain emasculation issue among white men when talking about supporting Democrats. I’ve heard it for years. A lot of what Democrats stand for: helping people through various means, supporting equal rights, cut against the myth that men carry about self-reliance. Self-reliance and helping people are seen as contradictory impulses by a lot of men, and the GOP does an effective job at exploiting that in their messaging. In addition, in just common lay speak, there’s a certain status issue that comes with being a Democrat in the company of men. Some look at it as emasculating, or like being one is a burden on men’s rights and liberties (the GOP played into that on the Kavanaugh debate.). Given the demographics and voting history of Kansas, in my view Kelly is better off with Orman in the race than him not being in the race. I see Kelly getting the cross-over female vote without many defections to Orman. I don’t see her getting a lot of male GOP defectors. If Orman is there to take that vote away from Kobach that will help Kelly on e-day.
Trying hard to care … trying … trying … nope.
You nailed it. The only answer I see is in the comments above: vanity. Also, “purity of essence.”
In other good news, the Arizona Green candidate is polling @ 6% in a very tight Senate race.
Let me tell you why you should care: the reason is a confluence of two facts.
Fact 1: There is a Census of Housing and Population scheduled for April 1, 2020.
Fact 2: Districts of all types but particularly Congressional districts will be drawn by arms of the State government in 2021.
The easiest way to fairer maps (not fair maps, just less gerrymandered than current maps) is to control the Governor’s office. The way to fair maps is to control the state legislature. Electing more and better Democrats to Congress requires controlling the district maps.