Discussion: Judge: Mueller Must ID For Manafort Ex- Foreign Pols Referenced In Indictment

Now watch carefully as Faux News suddenly has a huge interest in whoever Mueller ends up ID’ing here, trying to discredit them or defend them or whatever just happens to be in Trump’s best interests.

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I find myself wondering whether, by doing so, the sources the investigation is using are compromised by the revelation.

How will it impact the investigation if these sources are revealed, but they still have information for the team that hasn’t yet been shared?

I’m guessing Mueller’s team is prepared for this, but this could be real ugly. Wonder if there are any stipulations that could be requested, because that puts these sources into some serious retaliatory danger, in my mind.

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Interesting.

And I don’t think this hurts Mueller or the investigation, if anything, if these names become public it just puts more squeeze on trump and more fear for his life for Manafort. Just my H.O. but I do think the end of the week will not be as depressing (at least for us) as the beginning of the week.

I have to be in DC and environs this weekend and into next week…ooh boy…timing.

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Can you have @antisachetdethe fly in with you? Like on a Friday indictment afternoon?

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Sure! But I’m driving and glad I have Sirius radio. Can pick them up at the airport though. :wink:

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Has @antisachetdethe been seen by anyone recently? I’m wondering if the administration took him hostage in an attempt to curtail his flying.

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Did the bail violation hearing happen yet? WTF?

I think the judge wants the names so that they’re prohibited from visiting their buddy Paulie in the slammer when she puts him there this Friday.

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I’m guessing this is an addition to Konstantin Kilimnik?

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Thanks for the clarification, ncsteve. Here’s hoping it puts the kabosh on the hysterical doom sayers.

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In a seperate case in Virginia, Mueller has also brought charges that include tax fraud and bank fraud.
Just remember there's a rat in separate, Tierney.

Btw, does anybody know what happened in the Virginia case after the judge made all those inflammatory remarks about Mueller just wanting to get Manafort to testify against Trump (as if that would be a bad or unscrupulous thing)?

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Still awaiting TS Ellis judgment.

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Thank Renato.

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Maybe so, that’s certainly the standard RW media God Save The King approach (and IAE it’ll likely be more the Daily Caller and the Washington Examiner than Fox who’ll be trying to execute the main attacks on this front).

But this isn’t remotely surprising. Every Rule of Law / “western democracy” country has this as a standard feature.

In all the countries bound by the European Human Rights Act - including the UK and most Euro countries not actualy fully under the EU umbrella - and including our new Enemy #1 the rogue state of Canada which actually is responsible for starting the trend that led to this becoming an international standard - this falls under the ordinary disclosure obligations of government prosecutors.

So it’s not at all a case of ‘Gee I hope Mueller planned for this’, the OSC most certainly EXPECTED this, and within this timing window.

And we’ll see from the usual Friday pm Ordered Information Compliance dump, but it cannot be said at this point that this is necessarily any sort of victory at all, for Manafort nor for any of the Trump Mob - Putin Mob co-conspirators within the by now obviously inevitable superseding indictment that will allege one big overall conspiracy to defraud the US of a fair and US-law compliant presidential election in 2016.

It could in fact be part of an OSC set-up to explode in the clown faces of Team Trumpalo.

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It’s a standard procedural right for defendants in a conspiracy charge to be informed who the government proposes are their not-indicted co-conspirators.

IOW you’re fretting not just needlessly, but over a human right.

This too is possible. We’ll see. Mueller’s not a magician, magic’s not real anyway, and the OSC has to play with the cards as they’ve been dealt. But they’re better at this game than Manafort’s team.

Maybe so, but there is the whole thing about witness intimidation that has already occurred in this case. There is another whole story out there on TPM today about Mueller asking for some protection for some of their sources and information so that it isn’t taken and used by other parties.

Friday.

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