Discussion for article #237920
Just as advocates for inter-racial marriages should have just patiently waited until the states all passed laws allowing for it. It still didn’t have majority support in most of the southern states into the -1980s-. And the only reason they finally came along was seeing loving, dedicated, strong inter-racial couples living their lives. If all they had were the boogeyman of their parents’ generation, I’m convinced we would still not have legal inter-racial marriage in Mississippi and Alabama. The same goes for same sex marraige. It would have taken generations to get it through the legislature in Utah, for instance. Equal protection means equal protection everywhere.
In my dissenting opinion to CJR’s dissenting opinion: “meh”
an issue that does not seem to be the sort of thing courts usually decide
“Seem” is such an interesting word in such a self-sabotaging phrase, Mr. CJ.
Questions for Justice Roberts: Would this be the same way we lost forever when the Supreme Court stopped Florida’s vote count in 2000 rather than letting the process play out? the same way we lost forever when the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights act despite citizens’ expression of need for the law?
And interracial couples also forever lost true acceptance due to the SCOTUS ruling in Loving v. Virginia.
I suppose he must think the same thing about Brown v. Board, etc.
Just when he thought Justice Roberts had some something good…
I fail to see how those who already apposed SSM would somehow have been stymied from being more accepting in the future based upon this decision.
I think I can speak for gay rights advocates in saying that we’re willing to live with that loss.
I’m not going to badmouth him too much given his vote on health care yesterday, but that’s a really sad statement for him to make - and should be used against him next time he strikes down a law he thinks is unconstitutional.
Uh-huh. Because Roe v. Wade is the obvious analogy. Because giving gay couples legal access to the same major redefinition of their legal status available to straight couples is exactly the same thing, with exactly the same moral stakes, as the right to end a pregnancy.
Nope other case in U.S. Supreme Court history that might be a better forerunner of how this will play out than Roe v. Wade.
But, then again, he probably thinks it would have been better to rule for the state in Loving v. Virginia and wait for the states to decide on their own that interracial marriage wasn’t a crime. Sure it would have happened in every state except Mississippi and Alabama by, oh, 2087.
Never mind that “equal protection” nonsense.
Just wait for those nice conservatives to accept you.
It will happen any time now.
Roberts surely can read polling data. Many of the people holding his bigoted views will die off in the next couple of decades.
So Roberts is showing is true, more Catholic, and more sincere nasty side in this decision. I suppose he would have said the same about Brown v. Board of Education. After all, when the court imperiously outlawed segregation, the opportunity was lost forever the possibility of persuading segregationists that segregation was wrong.
Well, let’s see, while we gay folks were busy trying to persuade our fellow citizens, members of the party that nominated Roberts to the Court were passing law after law in their gerrymandered sanctuaries trying to make it completely legal to discriminate against us. So forgive us if we choose expediency, Chief.
I’m sure the moral pariah felt that way about Brown v. Board of Education, too.
I frankly don’t give a damn if a few bigots or theocrats never truly accept me.
Haters are going to hate.
All I care about is having equal protection and equal rights under the law.
This is much more like Loving v. Virginia than Roe v Wade. Abortion is a white hot issue for people on both sides and no amount of time is going to change that. Same sex marriage is like interracial marriage, in the long run the only people who really care are the couples themselves. The Christian conservatives will move on to the next shinny thing.
It’s a right, ya putz. I don’t know why gay people should be denied it until Uncle Wally the bigot’s on board.
Precisely. You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows, when you’ve got poll aggregators.