I never said the Israelis were competent.
Nah. I just see you and your attitude and want to pee on it. Thatâs the truth. Since I canât pee over the www I just gotta mark your thoughts. 'Cause, my pee sure smells better than what you are writing. Zionism is a disgrace to human development.
âMore than 150 civilians, including more than 40 children, have been killed in Israelâs air assaults in Gaza to curb militant rocket fire. Civilians make up about 75 percent of the Palestinian deaths, according to a running count by the United Nations.â
Well, thatâs about as clever as me saying you support the antisemitic murder regime of Hamas and I donât. To which, of course, youâd say, 'I donât support hamas," to which Iâd say something like âso what do you think Hamas would do if Israel ended the blockade and took down the fence?â to which you wouldnât really reply, etc. etc.
Some are being shot down, somehow. Doesnât seem, Occamâs Razor style, that the most likely way in which they are being shot down is with the one arms system thatâs claiming to shoot them down?
So it is a genocidal regime that canât seem to kill more than a few hundred people in close to 2000 airstrikes with some of the most advanced weapons systems in the world in what is generally billed as one of the most densely populated areas of the world?
So ask yourself, if you werenât you, if you had no bias whatsoever regarding the conflict, and that was presented to you, youâd realize how ridiculous that sounds.
Well, thatâs silly, because it suggests that Israel is attempting to kill those children (hence your use of âmurder,â) when, in fact, the evidence is that Israel is attempting to limit casualties (see my statement above regarding ridiculousness).
See, I just thought you had delusions of grandeur, but now youâre just being nasty. I mean, if you have some kind of scat fetish or something, thatâs fine, but do you really think this is the place for it?
And, FWIW, I called seedyschmeedy (or whatever the fuck his name is) an anti-Semite for insisting I was a âracistâ and âZionistâ (because we disagreed) and for his appalling claim that âA âJewish stateâ is the problem and it should never exist.â
How a âJewish stateâ is somehow more egregious than a Palestinian state that would ban Jews, as suggested by Rashid Areikat, the Palestine Liberation Organizationâs ambassador to the U.S., is beyond me.
âAfter the experience of the last 44 years of military occupation and all the conflict and friction, I think it would be in the best interest of the two people to be separated,â Areikat said.
Which would seem to open the door to an Israeli claim that Jews deserve a safe place to live after the murder of six million of their number. Maybe Iâm just incapable of seeing this issue in the black and white terms that prompt people like seedyveedy to scream Zionist racist at every Jew who feels conflicted by Israelâs overly aggressive attitudes but who is not quite ready to haul out the Hitler analogies. Seedyâs ideologic importunity replicates the insistence of those who declare that Barack Obama is a war criminal who must be impeached to save the world, another topic on which thinking people actually see two sides.
Reasonable? How about a ceasefire based upon one simple and obvious concession by Hamas â that they recognize the right of Israel to exist and Jews to live in peace. Hamasâ open goal is the destruction of the State of Israel and death to the Jews. This isnât some paranoid rant ⌠It is in their charter, what they teach their children, and evidenced by their relentless efforts to kill as many Jews as possible. There are no Israeli settlements in Gaza and there would be no blockade if they were not arming themselves to the teeth with weapons from Iran aimed at Israeli civilians. So we should give them ten years to rearm with even more powerful weapons? Give me a break. No country in the world would ever agree to that. Letâs be honest about Hamasâ intentions and their sacrificing their own population because they are still fighting the war to annihilate Jews from 1948 which they will never win.
Most likely it is luck and the general flak abilities of an exploding interceptor rocket. Flak guns would probably work as well, but not cost as much.
Good quote, unter.
It is quite easily. Mass murder, war crimes and theft of territory make Israel a pariah to most of the world.
Itâs called New York City, Florida and Chicago.
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Israel does not have a right to exist.
âexploding interceptor rocket.â I.e., the âiron dome.â
And if by âflak guns,â you mean anti-aircraft, guns, they wouldnât, which is why other systems have been developed.
If you mean simply a gun designed to shoot down missiles, I do agree that something like the Phalanx antimissile system might work, but at a much closer range, and Israel is attempting a more high altitude interception.
It does, because you have millions of people living there, who have the same right to self-determination as the millions of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.
I am curious, what would happen to the Jews living there. Youâve already called for some expulsions, so Iâm wondering how this would be achieved without âmass murder, war crimes and theft of territory.â
You canât seriously be trying to justify the deaths of 4 children playing on a beach.
âNot at allâitâs a a war.â
You cannot kill hundreds of people including children and claim itâs a âwarâ based on one Israeli casualty.