Discussion for article #229305
Ugh, brutal.
Let’s heed the pope’s recent advice and get over our own nation’s death penalty obsession. It’s making for some strange bedfellows in the world.
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We’re brutal animals, and not as smart as we believe we are.
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That’s paltry compared to our Saudi “friends”
59 beheadings this year. So far.
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The future founders of “Reagan” watch admiringly, taking careful notes.
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Word.
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And celebrate their demonic possession.
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I oppose Capitol Punishment on general priciples, but the scanty facts this article provide don’t seem to indicate anything out of order.
She bought a knife two days before, told a friend she was going to kill him three days before, stabbed him in the back (apparently doesn’t deny it) and killed him.
Hard to see much fault in the court’s determination that it was murder.
Except that it was Iran and involved a woman, doesn’t seem to be much that is newsworthy about this case.
Repeating here that I oppose the death penalty, but this wasn’t cast as a death penalty issue.
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China doesn’t release figures but Amnesty International believes “thousands” were killed last year. Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and this country follow. Disgusting company to be in.
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Well yes, if you put on welder’s goggles, pretend that the rule of law exists in Iran such that the weak and powerless receive the same treatment as the powerful and connected, assume that a fundamentalist deeply ideologically misogynistic government isn’t going to ever, ever, ever fabricate evidence in a case where a former high intelligence official was accused of rape, act like the “judges” in the country aren’t ignorant religious fanatic stooges selected first and foremost for loyalty to a theocracy, ignore the international watchdogs who say no real investigation was done, and then fail to use the tiny spark of imagination required to figure out how an attempted rapist might end up having been stabbed in the back, it does all seem to have been perfectly on the up and up.
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And now, two tragedies instead of one.
She was executed five years after being found guilty; that doesn’t sound like a “rush to judgement” legal protocol. I don’t know how many stages of appeal exist in Iran between the trial judge(s) and Iran’s Supreme Court, but it seems to be comparable to other “civilized, rule of law” countrys, including the US.
That the victim’s family has the legal authority to accept payment in lieu of a death sentence is an additional mercy not found in American justice.
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Another action that reminds us of right wing America’s attitude to women.
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Yeah, okay. Iran is a beacon of justice and judicial probity and it’s judicial system is not at all controlled by misogynistic theocrats.
Because whether a Middle Eastern regime is repulsive totally depends on whether it considers itself an ally or an enemy of the United States.
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I don’t quite get it. It might be as you imply, but it might be different and actually have been murder. I would take any verdict from an Iranian court with a lot of salt, but I wouldn’t assume automatically that the opposite of what the court found is the truth.
The real barbarism here is the death penalty as such. Every country that officially kills people in its custody should be ashamed of itself AND excluded from civilized society. That holds for all the usual suspects, including Japan (which almost always is omitted from these lists, for whatever reason). Even Russia has abandoned the death penalty.
Everything that anyone needs to know on the subject has been said by Cesare Beccaria in 1764 in his groundbreaking book “On Crimes and Punishments” (Dei delitti e delle pene). He deals with torture there as well, btw.
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What?!
Thou shalt not kill.
Unless you are a cop, a soldier, a cook in the IDF, a not-very-good-doctor-in-an-Oklahoma-prison, standing-your-ground . . . . .
So much for justice.
George Will approves.
Only part that matters in this article is the first four words. We have a long way to go…