Discussion: Insistent Carson Defends Remark That Hitler Could 'Happen Here' To Whoopi

Ben only wants peop[e who agree with him to stand up and speak out. All the others, he wants in jail.

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Think Carson has all the right stuff to be a fine fascist, what an arrogant individual.

“It’s just so evil, so contemptible, that no one can hear anything else.”

Hey Barry - you’re his campaign manager. Isn’t it your job to, you know, hide the batshit floating in his head?

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He don’t know us vewy well, do he? (With apologies to Bugs Bunny, my favorite philosopher.) We’ve (well I have, anyway) been throwing around cries of “Hitler!” for quite a while, and have recently tried to tone the rhetoric down.

What makes this left winger crazy is that Carson doesn’t have a clue about the significance of that little mustache on his ideological upper lip.

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TPM:

“I’ve talked in the past about how the people in Nazi Germany did not agree with Hitler. A lot of them didn’t. But did they stand up? Did they say anything? No, they kept their mouths shut and look at the atrocities that occurred,” Carson said at a church North Carolina, according to ABC News. …

Carson’s campaign manager, Barry Bennett, told ABC News that Carson should start using a different example.

I agree, a different example would be a good idea. Maybe something like:

I’ve talked in the past about how the people in America did not agree with the NRA. A lot of them didn’t. But did they stand up? Did they say anything? No, they kept their mouths shut and look at the atrocities that occurred.

Or:

I’ve talked in the past about how the people in America did not agree with Voting Suppresion. A lot of them didn’t. But did they stand up? Did they say anything? No, they kept their mouths shut and look at the atrocities that occurred.

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It’s a little unfair to single out Carson like that. One could avoid personal insult and be much more accurate with a comparison like, “You know, every Republican campaign.”

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If you’re going to post something that someone else wrote — even as a paraphrase — it’s customary to give credit.

I assume this is a paraphrase of Lawrence Britt’s work:
http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

Umberto Eco also has a list of 14 characteristics of fascism:
http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf

Particularly relevant to the present situation:

(11) In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. In every mythology the hero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death. It is not by chance that a motto of the Falangists was Viva la Muerte (in English it should be translated as “Long Live Death!”). In non-fascist societies, the lay public is told that death is unpleasant but must be faced with dignity; believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a supernatural happiness. By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death.

Actually Hitler DID happen here! A century before the REAL Hitler! Ever heard of Andrew Jackson?

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He is dumber than a box of rocks…I still think he practiced on his cranium when he was in med school…

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I agree with him. How many people knew that the war in iraq and Afganistan were a mistake before we even went in there but never spoke up against Bush.

Keep 'em talking, this clown is a gaffe a minute machine. In order for a Hitler to happen here, you’d have to have a Hitler first wouldn’t you?

Who in, brain surgeon but weak brained Carson’s mind, is going to go full Hitler?

Obama doesn’t have time, Hitler took quite a while becoming Hitler and Hillary just couldn’t pull it off. And who can see Bernie doing Hitler, not me.

So, it’s a Republican or nothing.

I myself always count it as some sort of positive when someone from the Rar Right thinks Hitler was bad.

Because you never know with that political demographic.

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Carson apparently didn’t study much history in high school or college. Hitler did not become the leader of the Nazi movement because people didn’t speak up. Hitler was elected to office by the German people. He promised to make their desperate economic lot better and he did. There was an active underground in Germany during the Nazi regime which did what they could to undermine the Nazis at great risk to the participants. Since we are not going through a major depression and monetary deflation our situation is not remotely close to what the German citizenry experienced in the 1930’s. It would be terrifying to have someone as ignorant of history and so many other things, as Carson is, as POTUS.

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I encourage readers of this forum to read “In the Garden of Beasts” by Erik Larson, and tell me we are not already emulating pre-World War II Germany. The Republican Party is driving us there.

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Lots of people knew and protested the upcoming illegal war on Iraq! The media didn’t report it! I knew it would be a disaster from the beginning!

Ben has been sniffing the Chloroform a few times too much…

There is the Obama Implication. These poeple are still pushing this BS in the media: birthplace truthers, socialism death panels, Marxist redistribution of white wealth, and the rest of their idiotic values. And they double down on the stupidity, alienating huge numbers of people and further alienating the ‘pluralistic society’ the claim to care for.

There it is.

I disagree with the brain surgeon that the majority of Germans didn’t know what Hitler was about. He was elected by a wide margin, he’d already tried to commandeer the government at Munich, served time in prison for the crime of High Treason. It had already been twelve years since his party had first proposed that German Jews should be deprived of their civil rights, a decade since German Jews had been harassed and discriminated against by order of decree and seven years since Mein Kamph had been published. Hitler was not unknown. The people were down with him.

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Problem is, Hitler was authoritarian right-wing, not at all socialist left-wing. He OPPOSED the socialists and left-wingers, sending them all to concentration camps once he seized power. So the correct analogy to the danger of Hitler in our country is not something coming from the left, but something coming from the authoritarian, populist right-wing.
And what could that be, Dr. Carson???