Isn’t there a narrative going around that it is like 12-16 + instances over the past 15-20 years … with a few that were thoroughly - reckless - irresponsible - Zero-precautions - adventures that resulted in pregnancies that ended up being terminated.
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I think the argument implied here is more subtle than that. If Spanky didn’t know he’d violated a law when seeking to hide his affair, why would he take pains to deny his involvement? If an alternative theory of Spanky’s intentions is introduced, his lawyers can argue (as did Edwards’) that he wasn’t hiding the affair and/or cover-up from voters but rather from prospective business partners, his wife and family, and so on… If his lawyers can plausibly argue that he hid it for a reason unrelated to the election, they can use that to keep him from being convicted of a campaign finance violation.
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Slightly OT but I’m already tired of watching news presenters ask Democrats whether they’re going to impeach. Typical of GOP bastards to make a huge mess, then shrug and turn to Democrats to clean it up.
Ryan, McConnell, et al., this is your fucked up mess, get your slacker asses over to the WH pronto and tell Individual-1 that the jig is up and it’s time to resign.
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There is something that really doesn’t smell right about that whole supposed Elliott Broidy imbroglio. Definitely more to come.
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Impeachment is just symbolic anyhow because Dems can’t remove him from office.
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My point exactly. GOP, cleanup on aisle 1600!
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You’ve mentioned this a couple of times and I’m not why you believe it so strongly. Both this and the financial footsie with the Russians are criminal efforts to subvert a national election. I just don’t see how not yet being in office diminishes the seriousness. Do you think it’s more politically potent if done in office?
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detecting a bit of John Edwards - Andrew Young - Rielle Hunter aroma?
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Silly Rabbit. IOKIYAR. Always. On everything. From adultery, to forcing your mistress who also happens to be your medical patient to have an abortion, to refusing to disclose Tax Returns, to being a Serial Sexual Assaulter, to being banned from the Mall when you were thirty years old for being a Chicken Hawk, to being a Draft Dodger via Medical or Teaching Deferments, to conspiring with the Ayatollah to cheat and win a Presidential Election…to traveling to Argentina for a little of the Old In and Out without designating your Constitutional substitute should something happen while you are away…I am out of breath…
Get with da program.
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The question someone in the press’s gotta ask of Donnie’s tools is, “When you say ‘process crimes,’ dontcha ya mean ‘cover up?’”
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Prisons don’t serve taco bowls
He’ll be reduced to making toilet bowl tacos
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Legal experts have said the issue of whether Trump violated the law would come down to whether Trump tried to influence the election and whether he knew it was legally improper.
@socalista I get what you’re saying, but come on there is so much Trump doesn’t know, or at thinks it shouldn’t pertain to him.
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He, or his lawyers, might be able to argue that he knew that it was politically useful to hide the information, thus that he did so because he sought to gain some political advantage, something far short of a question of legality. Sadly, that might work in a larger sense, although I hope the revelation will still sink him politically (and maybe personally).
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If (when) there is Impeachment, there has to be a trial. Turtles option at the point is to just try to avoid a 2/3 conviction vote. And if the economy is not doing well and the Russian conspiracy stuff surfaces (and it will), I think even Turtle might dump Trump too. And if he does not, you will get enough Republican votes to convict.
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Seriously. A crime is a crime. And there are LOTS of them to choose from.
- Tax evasion
- Money laundering
- Conspiracy with a hostile Forgeign power to steal a presidental election (the legal language for that one must be a doozy)
- Perjury
- Bribery
- Witness intimidation
- Campaign finance violations
- Ongoing conspiracy with a hostile Forgeign power to manipulate American Forgeign policy (treason?)
- Inciting mob violence
- Endless illegal quid pro quo
- Endless emoluments clause violations
And the list goes on…probably also includes rape, blackmail, and assault, for starters.
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Conspiracy to commit murder is almost certainly in the mix, although possibly not provable.
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This twitter thread has been posted in several places this morning. Definitely instructive and worth a read.
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It won’t.
He’s already broadly unpopular, but he can’t be voted out of office nor held responsible in the Senate when 26% of registered voters approve of him no matter what and only 50% of registered voters bother to vote.
I also agree with @chuck_voellinger that nothing he did prior to taking office (including anything during his campaign) will be held against him politically. All his supporters say quite clearly that they know he’s not perfect, but that doesn’t matter to them because they like what he’s doing now. As long as those people make up 26% of registered voters, he’s bullet-proof.
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It’s just a process crime like perjury. 
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He’ll definitely have to delete yesterday’s tweet in which he say “Thanks!” to some unknown entity for clearing him.
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