I’m not saying that she was dissing BO and I don’t really think that’s the point anyway. I’m focusing on what she believes can be done realistically in this day and age. No, I don’t think she should have said “Eff the GOP, I’ll go it alone!” but here’s the thing: what she said sounds somewhat delusional. On what basis does it make even a shred of sense to work with a political party that has NO INTENTION working with you in good faith negotiations? And even if you do compromise, the country is screwed beyond measure. How do you show the electorate that that’s a good thing??
The Dem base MUST vote for a functional Democratic House and Senate in tandem with Dem president.
“Obama has been criticized for years by conservative and centrist pundits alike for not doing enough to build relationships with Republican lawmakers.”
You mean for not being conservative enough. For these people government has to be shown to be useless. Without Obama’s agreement on that principle they were not going to give him any successes.
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Bill didn’t have a Republican Party who thought the only way they would compromise was if he just did as they wanted all the time.
[/quote] Clinton didn’t have a Rethuglicant party that always refused to even accept even exactly what they asked for. PBO has offered them everything more than once, and it’s still “NO!!” - just to make him look bad.
To quote Bitch McConnell “…To make Barack Obama a one-term president.”
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It’s time for some change I can believe in. I didn’t get it from Obama and I certainly won’t get it from Hillary Clinton.
[/quote] So you’re voting all Tea Potty then??
I think she replied with the standard “Of course I’ll reach out” kind of nonsense that is the only acceptable response when asked about partisan divide. That’s all.
I’m not concerned about that comment. I am concerned that she’s trotting out the same insults that she and her husband used in 2008 and Mitt Romney used in 2012 about Obama. Note, that Obama has always been a lot more than pretty speeches. But, that didn’t stop the Clintons from using that smear then and now.
She did this all on her own. She is smart enough to know that line about pretty speeches is what Romney used against Obama in 2012. It was an unnecessary attack on someone who saved her political career by naming her SoS. And it showed how petty the Clintons can be.
Contrast what she said about Obama in this article to what O’Malley said about him in his Iowa speech. It’s day and night. O’Malley is clearly reaching out to the Democratic base. Hillary is reaching for the beltway media by pushing their talking points that Obama is a do-nothing president. Which one is likely to be more effective in the Democratic Primary?
Bill wasn’t perfect, far from it. I always said that he had to do some really great things to cover for his, let’s say, not so great things and he did. But Bill and Hillary didn’t get better healthcare for us done and Obama doesn’t have to cave to the Republicans to save his legacy due to his uncontrollable sex urges. Both of the Clinton’s have to live with that.
Obama has made the Republican Party come unglued in just one term and that expose works wonders for us Dems. There is no doubt what we are up against and no better motivation. Obama’s legacy includes just surviving the grotesque onslaught of hate directed at him and remaining cool. He leads us with a smile and that feels good.
Hillary will make no new believers by attempting to sell herself by tearing down our own. I personally just want her to be a Democrat, that’s all. She doesn’t have to be Superwoman or pretend that she has been right by the side of Superman forever.
Bill Clinton is loved by many, so is Barack Obama, Hillary needs to make her own legacy about her accomplishments and that will take proving it to all of us. Talk is cheap and cheap talk is dumb.
“Scroll to the bottom of the piece and you’ll find Clinton sounding far less critical (and cryptic) on the current president’s bipartisan
record. Nicholas quoted Clinton at the Colorado event as saying that Obama has “worked so hard and reached out so often, and it gets discouraging because you don’t feel like you’re getting much back.””
It’s not Clinton’s fault they buried this quote. That doesn’t make her a backstabber - but it does make some people lazy for not reading.
Absolutely. I read the original piece this morning and couldn’t believe the headline. She talked about how hard Obama tried to work with Republicans and how hard Bill tried to work with Republicans. Yet, somehow that was a suggestion that Obama hadn’t tried hard enough? It’s a bullshit game the media is playing to advance their idiotic narrative that HRC MUST distance herself from Obama because of the current polling. I’m not sure why so many people are so willing to be duped by it.
Guess we should all vote for a Green candidate, huh? Lol! Unrealistic and childlike–as usual. Your comment reads like a butt-hurt conservative operative’s smearing attempt to mislead liberal voters–so to fracture the Democratic vote, giving their ass-hat conservative puppet a cheating chance. Is it coincidence, or?? Besides making thinly-veiled misogynistic aspersions regarding Hillary Clinton, do you have any reality-based comparisons of Republicans and Democrats? (They’re exactly the same, right green girl?)
Because it’s what every Democratic pol has to say and it’s what moderate Republican candidates have to say at some point. It really doesn’t mean shit and never has, but it’s what they always say because it’s one of those things voters like to hear despite it having no basis in fact.
The message is clear: Liberal/progressive doesn’t translate into electoral votes. It’s sad, but it’s just a fact. You can have a liberal/progressive candidate, or you can win elections. Until or unless the electoral system is changed or the electorate undergoes a massive transformation, you can’t do both. Liberal/progressive just doesn’t pay off at the polls.
President Obama has reached out to the GOP only to have them slap his hand away every time. Bill Clinton had much more reasonable GOPers to deal with by comparison. But then again, Bill is White.
