Discussion for article #224724
I donât think her comment was meant to diminish PBO or should it be taken as such. Bubba had crazy wing nuts to deal with but race wasnât a factor. Here race is a factor which pushes it to a whole other level of crazyâŚ
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I am wishing more and more that she would just shut the hell up. She is reminding me why I never liked her. She is from the backstabbing wing of the DLC.
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He didnât have the Tea Party. Foley and Gingrich actually seem like functional Speakers compared to Boehner.
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In politics everyone is a backstabber. Itâs a blood sport and right now brooks no public friendships. In fact if there were a serious friendship across the aisle it could cost BOTH people their offices. The political climate is far more toxic than when Bill Clinton was in office.
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from the âbackstabbing grifting wingâ of the DLCâŚ
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Umm Hillary, Bill didnât have a Republican Congress that in the week after Bill was elected have their leaders get together and vow never to work with him and say NO to everything. Bill didnât have the Tea party that has driven a once noble party so far to the right as to be bordering on fascism. Bill didnât have a Republican Party who thought the only way they would compromise was if he just did as they wanted all the time.
Look if you are running for President great, but until after 2014 mid-terms STFU. Oh and another small piece of advice if you want African Americans to come out and vote for you I wouldnât go around dissing this President even subtly.
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That border has been crossed I think.
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Slick Hilly. I donât admire that stuff but Iâm glad sheâs on our side.
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I guess lessons are never learned. Glass/steagle anyone? Almost nothing good ever comes out of working with repubs.
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I couldnât agree with you more and someone should remind Hillary of that fact. Bill reached out to them and screwed the country on NAFTA to prove how âbi_partisanâ he was when George H W Bush was never able to get NAFTA passed. Doing what isnât right for the country is a bad way to gain the support of the right who would destroy the environment for the almighty dollar. I think Hillary makes the mistake of thinking that the right would allow her to reach out to them. They will treat her no better than they treat a black man.
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93 US Senators voted to repeal GS. You canât blame that on Republicans.
NAFTA got passed when Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. It had nothing to do with âreaching out to Republicans.â
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I donât think her comment was meant to diminish PBO or should it be taken as such.
[/quote]I agree; I donât think she was meaning to either but she really needs to choose her words more carefully because there are a lot of people in the âliberalâ media that use whatever she says to pounce and drive the narrative that everyone is distancing themselves from Obama.
She needs to clarify and acknowledge that that man has bent over backwards trying to work with a party that ON INAUGURAL NIGHT said they would not work with him. And I really wish the media would make that be known too, but I gave up on our hyperbolic, gossip driven Estate a long time ago. And unfortunately the fact that sheâs not being smarter in her public comments is making me change my opinion of her - and thatâs not good.
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Letâs face it. Despite being on the scene for three decades, Hillary is not an adroit politician. Sheâs very knowledgeable and good in long form but she so often blows the lay-ups and completely steps in it on things that should be gimmes.
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I could not agree more. And, itâs because she is too calculating and manipulative which is why many, including me, find her to be a phony. I really donât know what she really believes in. Never have.
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HRC is under opposition scrutiny 24/7, with hundreds of GOP operatives looking to make their bones by catching her in any tiny inaccuracy or a âgaffeâ. She may not be campaigning yet, but she knows she is at risk.
Even the most inoffensive comments are pounced on and taken apart by the Right, and if there is any way to misinterpret, take out of context, distort, or even plain lie about it, they will happily go for it.
I give her a lot of credit for even considering the Presidency: She and Bill know better than anyone the awful cost to their family and their personal and private life.
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I agree completely. Unfortunately, she has a tendency to âembellishâ her comments - a LOT. No, I am not calling her a liar. Iâm just saying that there have been a couple of times where she has either added more to a situation than was actually there OR she went on talking about something without realizing how it was coming across.
Regarding these comments now - she needs to make it REAL CLEAR how this differs from what BO was doing in his first term and how she thinks people perceived that. (Hereâs a hint: even so-called Independents thought it was absurd).
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The more Hillary talks the more she sounds like sheâs parroting the gutless, patronizing words of Lanny Davis or Mark Penn. If Obama has a problem itâs that he thinks that everybody is just like him, reasonable. He needs a lilâ LBJ in him.
I honestly thought after all Hillaryâs been through with the GOP she would have the balls to call them out. It appears that sheâs devolving into her true self, a gutless patronizing political hack.
If she keeps flapping her yap sheâll eventually talk herself right out of the picture. She weaves a rope and fashions a noose with her lips every time she moves them.
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âReaching out to Republicansâ has about the same visceral effect on the far left that âReaching out to Democratsâ has for the right.
There are factions at both ends that would see it all fall apart before they would compromise, even for a short term.
But to be accurate, one must regard the brainwashing from the right versus the simple logic of the left, on the right they are promoting and perpetuating a Big Lie, defending prejudice of all sorts and expecting rich old white men to manage The Streets.
But from the left we are screaming for progress, tolerance and good governance.
There really IS a difference.
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