Discussion: Hillary Clinton

system1 · August 19, 2015, 12:47pm

Discussion for article #239544

willpower · August 19, 2015, 1:42pm

“With a cloth”. That’s funny and some good trolling. But… she better come out clean on this one very soon or she is toast. I think it is much ado about nothing, but most folks understand about sensitive emails even if they know nothing about the classification system. That being said, most folks also don’t like being lied to (if that is the case), on a national level… even for trivial things. Just seems so “small ball”. But the meta here is still not good.

daveyjones64 · August 19, 2015, 1:42pm

This is a great ado about nothing, of course. But Hillary isn’t helping herself with these snarky little comments

rssrai · August 19, 2015, 1:46pm

I thought it was funny. Obviously, the media has no sense of humor. Also, Henry is an ass wipe. LOL.

bmcchgo · August 19, 2015, 1:48pm

No one is talking to her about this other than stenographer jackals of the media, The Right and hand-wringing Democrats (mostly in the Beltway).

grawk · August 19, 2015, 1:52pm

Who can blame her for hating the media. They all suck out loud.

rich_in_nj · August 19, 2015, 1:54pm

The media has always held the Clintons to a double standard.

Just before Mitt Romney left the Massachusetts governor’s office and first ran for president, 11 of his top aides purchased their state-issued computer hard drives, and the Romney administration’s e-mails were all wiped from a server, according to interviews and records obtained by the Globe.

No one cared!

teenlaqueefa · August 19, 2015, 1:54pm

I watched a few minutes of Morning Joe this morning (yeah, shame on me) and Joe was adamant that she was so clueless that she actually meant that. All the cable TV news shows suck balls but MJ is one of the worst.

daveyjones64 · August 19, 2015, 1:57pm

JEB was required to release his emails when he left office in Florida. He didn’t. Not until 8 years later when he only released a partial list (and oddly enough, just days before the first Hillary email story broke at NYT). And was roundly praised for being so open and forthcoming.

luckybastard77 · August 19, 2015, 1:57pm

My gut instinct is that it’s much ado about nothing. But it’s frustrating for me because I’m always left pondering, why in the hell do the Clintons always play in the gray areas? They always seem to be toeing some legal or ethical line that makes people give them serious side-eye. She has said some really good things on her campaign so far but this issue is sucking the air out of the room, unfortunately.

daveyjones64 · August 19, 2015, 2:03pm

There is no gray area here. This is an inter departmental squabble between State and Intelligence over how to classify information with regards to FOIA requests. It doesn’t even involve Hillary. In fact, the squabble seems to be over now, but the media isn’t covering that part of the story.

Everything else is part of a political witch hunt that was started 3 years ago, that has had every question answered already, but which the GOP insists on continuing purely to drag her through the mud of false accusations.

teenlaqueefa · August 19, 2015, 2:05pm

The email controversy is fabricated from nothing by the GOP and sold to people by the media, just like Whitewater, Vince Foster, and multiple other 90’s Clinton “scandals.” The Clintons weren’t playing in any “gray areas.”

rudesan · August 19, 2015, 2:08pm

Why do Democrats have to be held to the higher standard when Republicans get away with all kinds of shit? And by Democrats, I would also include any of the powerless in our country who are bullied by authority.
Just is.

ralph_vonholst · August 19, 2015, 2:14pm

“Nobody talks to me about it other than you guys,” she responded.

A commentator, I forget who, wrote something like: “The media loves to talk about the ‘drip, drip, drip,’ of the Hillary email controversy, when, in fact, they are the ones supplying the water.”

doremus_jessup · August 19, 2015, 2:18pm

We will hear for months from every Tom, Dick and Harry so called expert about how computer files can be retrieved even after they’ve been deleted. However, it’s a bit more complicated to retrieve emails from a message store which is essentially a database. It would be easier to just go straight to the backup tape.

What legal authority are they using and what are the goals to justify these computer forensic techniques?

doremus_jessup · August 19, 2015, 2:22pm

Clinton email stories are just a media game. It’s easy to forget the root cause of these stories is BENGHAZI!

luckybastard77 · August 19, 2015, 2:22pm

My question is this, who before her felt it was necessary to have a separate server for emails that was outside of the security apparatus at state? She’s the only one, I think.

I have friend- liberal Dem- who works at State and according to her, there are not an insignificant amount of people at state who are holding their breath because they think there actually could be a serious issue here. She told me the protocol that’s followed if an email accidentally includes classified info. Needless to go over it here, but it is taken very seriously and it’s a very thorough process.

Again, I personally don’t think there’s anything there, but why are we here again with the Clintons? And yes, I think the media is more to blame than they are but why would they do something like this knowing the amount of scrutiny they get and the tendency of the media to make hay over lesser issues than this?

luckybastard77 · August 19, 2015, 2:24pm

All of those 90s scandals were BS. We’re in complete agreement. I don’t think this one will amount to anything either. However, I for the life of me can’t think of why she would have a server at home knowing the stringent protocols that State has in place for dealing with classified info. It just seems so unnecessary to me.

berkshire_boy · August 19, 2015, 2:25pm

What exactly is at issue here at this point? Is anyone alleging that Hillary Clinton broke any law? Are they alleging that she was illegally receiving and sending documents that were marked classified and putting the country somehow at risk. Is there actually a point here other than government bureaucracies engaging in the usual internal clusterfu&k and internecine warfare? Is this just a fishing expedition that will eventually wither on the vine like all the others have? Sure looks that way. Isn’t it about time for the sensible people in this country to say enough is enough, we want to hear about what the candidates are going to do to improve our quality of life? I mean, WTF, already.

bardi · August 19, 2015, 2:26pm

What if she really had nothing to do with it? I mean, this has all the trappings of an interdepartmental dispute between the “IC” and the State Department and, at best, is a great example of how the “intelligence” community, by constantly changing what is or is not “classified” or “secret”, can leverage a nothing burger into a full blown “investigation”.