Discussion: Hillary Clinton Says We Shouldn't Abolish Death Penalty

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Man, I love the smell of triangulation in the morning!

Let the flaming begin.

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Disappointed, but I’ll still vote for her.

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Fox: We all know liberals are anti-life. Now they are showing that they are also Pro-Death.

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I used to be against the death penalty, but I agree, there are cases for it. I don’t believe it’s a deterrent, I don’t believe in using it for revenge or “Justice” whatever that means in these cases. But I have come to believe there are certain people who just do not need to be here for the safety of the heard so to speak. I read a few months ago about a very violent man, released again from jail who then beat his fiancee to death, cracked open her skull and ate parts of her brain. There are just brutal, violent evil people out there that never need to walk our streets again.

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Hillary has been known to “re-evaluate” her positions on things like this at advantageous times. Not uncommon. If and when she gets to the point where she’s not worried about scaring off the centrists, we’ll see what happens.

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Politically speaking, considering the mood of the nation and how much support the death penalty enjoys across the board, I think she is pretty centered with what she stated.

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And of course we will always use impeccable discretion in applying it. That is the point. Who is going to decide this? Between this and her steadfast war mongering, I just can’t vote for this woman.

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I don’t think this is a big enough issue for triangulation. I suspect it is how she really feels.

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Disappointing for sure…

The death penalty has no redeeming quality. Its not a deterrent, it’s unevenly applied, it’s more costly than life in prison, and there have been far too many a DNA exoneration over the years.

The cruelty and imperfections of the methods I believe are a problem too.

I’ll vote for Bernie in the NH primary, and the dem in the general. Primarily because the supreme court; we need a SC that will protect gay rights, women’s right to choose, and voting rights.

Certainly breaking the glass ceiling is good, but I think dems are compromising too much to get there. I also think she and her campaign/ supporters have already overplayed that hand.

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There are other ways to keeps bad people off the streets.

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6 years is a long wait for vote democratic values, from a democrat…

As Bob Kincaid pointed out, she sounds like Bill Clinton advocating we keep abortion “safe, legal, and rare,” but of course it’s hard to argue for a safe state-sponsored execution so she just left that part out.

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What Republican do you favor over her?

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Not in the primary…

If she’s the nominee…, better a hawk, beholden to corporate interests that will support the rights of women and minorities than a hawk, beholden to corporate interests,that will try to unravel the progress made these last several years…

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Respectfully, and without criticizing your views, let me say I used to be for the death penalty, and that meant that I personally was willing to pull the switch on the prisoner. Times change and more information came down the line. It turns out that the death penalty cops hand out to minorities also applies in our justice system. To this day Alabama is having to defend prosecutor challenges that resulted in all white juries in death penalty cases for black defendants. Considerable DNA tests have saved some innocent people from wrongful convictions. For Hillary to say the death penalty was sometimes used in a discriminatory way is a gross understatement.

Do the math. Poor people die. The corruption we see in politics certainly includes prosecutors and judges and rich people skate if they are even charged. Nobody can say a poor person represented by a Public Defender is going to get as good a defense as a high priced criminal lawyer delivers. Equal justice would be a good place to start.
I have to differ with Hillary on this issue.
I see no problem with a sentence of life in prison with no possible parole. It costs less and is reversible if and only if substantial new evidence comes to light.

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Frankly, that would be more disappointing…

She’s smarter than that to know that the benefits are drowned by the drawbacks like uneven applications, and general fallability of human even when averaged over 12 people on a jury…

This is bluster, and it is not needed. I’m not a supporter(in primary), but I could not argue her toughness.

Yes, much like she was politically centered when she voted to authorize the Iraq War.

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Look, in any triangulation you think you are going to gain more from one group than you will give up with another, just what does her position gain her?

Careful now people, remember the New Rule – any criticism of Hillary, now makes you a gender-bullying misogynist. :wink: