Discussion: Hillary Clinton Just Took A Shot At GOP Plans To Cut Social Security

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“So part of what we have to do is say 'look, let’s everybody take a deep breath. Let’s figure out what works and how we build on what works and let’s not get into arguments about ideology and rhetorical attacks and claims,” Clinton said. “Let’s just take a deep breath here as a country and say 'okay, we’re going to have a retirement issue and people who’ve worked hard deserve to have enough security when they retire so they can have a good quality of life so I’m a hundred percent committed to that.”

Hmm, while I’m glad to see privatization being mocked and a general commitment, there’s something a bit hard to nail down about this.

I prefer Warren’s approach, both on style and substance. Glad to see Clinton isn’t going off about grand bargains and stuff, though.

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“Let’s just take a deep breath here as a country and say 'okay, we’re
going to have a retirement issue and people who’ve worked hard deserve
to have enough security when they retire so they can have a good quality
of life so I’m a hundred percent committed to that.”

Goddamit! THIS is one of my problems with HRC. She tries SO HARD to thread the needle with the “hard working” Americans thing. She did this in '08 and I basically never forgave her for it. This quote implies that if you didn’t work hard or somehow managed to fck your retirement up or had it fcked up for you by life through no fault of your own, you deserve NOTHING. You deserve stability and a good quality of life ONLY if you’ve worked hard OR if you were able to somehow navigate bad situations such that you came out on top.

I would love Secretary Clinton to tell that to the MANY 50+ workers who have dropped out of the labor force because they were rejected by that same labor force by greedy companies and whose savings now consist of “hope.”

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Hillary’s age and moribund health are major issues in the campaign.
It’s tone deaf to come out of the gate talking about social security!

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“Took A Shot At GOP”
LOL!

“Let’s figure out what works and how we build on what works”
Ah, we already know what works

“Let’s just take a deep breath here as a country and say 'okay, we’re going to have a retirement issue…”
Nooo, we’re not going to have a retirement issue but if you want to imply we are, go right ahead.

“when they retire so they can have a good quality of life so I’m a hundred percent committed to that.”
TY Mrs Clinton.

“what’s going to happen to all these people like you who worked 27 years at this other company? What’s going to happen? It’s just wrong,” Clinton said."

And then she said, “and for those reasons I am unequivocally against privatizing social security and will veto any threat to do just that if I am president”

Just kidding.

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The “hard working” thing, have to agree. Wish she’d said “If the Republicans had delivered on their promise of Jobs and helped us grow this economy, maybe we could afford to honor our promise to our seniors. While their message seems to be “tough luck”, I think we can do it.”

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What?! Do you even know what that means? You’ve just said she’s dying. However, I’ve posted this in other threads. Clinton will be 69 when she runs next year, the same age Reagan was when he ran and won in 1981. She has a life expectancy of 17 years, and he had about 11. The right will seize on anything, and I really don’t want to see this side do that.

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If I take a deep breath it’ll be exclusively to yell that much louder “GET YOUR GRUBBY PAWS OFF MY SOCIAL SECURITY. BENEFITS.”

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You must be 20-25 yrs old? yes?
69 is ancient and nearly dead to you?
Discriminating based on age is every bit as bad as discriminating based on race
There’s a reason the Constitution says a President must be older than 35. It’s called life experience.
Btw: Moribund:

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When I was a lot younger any politician who commented on any sort of change to Social Security could kiss their career buh bye.

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The reason this chaps my hide SO badly is because long-term unemployment has wrecked my life. There’s nothing I can do about it now but deal with the fallout. If I can retire as I get older, I’ll probably receive about $50 a month based on my employment history. Them
the breaks.

As time goes on, I believe they’ll be more like me.

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This answer is unworthy of a representative of the Democratic Party. I was thinking that this is an Rockefeller Republican answer, but it’s not; its a mealy-mouthed, cowardly Democratic answer.

“We’re going to have a retirement issue,” WHY? The Republicans are going to have one, obviously. Democrats don’t, we’re FOR it.

“We’ve got to figure out what works”. Social Security works! I’d sure like to hear a Democrat say so.

I think that Hillary meant to say “blah blah blah” here. But she didn’t. She said SS doesn’t work, and we’ve go to figure some stuff out, and this will be an issue among us.

She confirmed that there’s something to what Christie was saying. This is what she does.

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“…and also opposed a proposal by then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) that raised the payroll tax cap that funds the program”

Democrats don’t all have to agree to anything more than compromise. Republicans are the ones all dressed in jack boots.

It would be interesting to see a reasoned debate by both sides of this issue, though.

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I have never understood why the left has never taken the offensive on this issue. The right has been trying to dismantle SS for generations. Shine a light on it. Expose the phony math. It’s a winning stance.

And on the issue of Hillary’s age - she looks absolutely fantastic. She really looks to have another 30 years in her. She looks way better than Bill. Can anyone do something about his silver hair? It looks horrible.

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You are really off base on two counts here. 1) Age discrimination is illegal and there is no evidence Hillary is in poor health - so why say that? 2) It is not tone-deaf to address Social Security - the Republican candidates have already made it an issue in this campaign and it is absolutely essential for any Democratic candidate to address it.

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Ya, me too, I think. Does that make me conservative, to think It should still be that way?

Expect an uptick in the troll population to accompany the increased number of stories about Ms. Clinton now that she’s officially in.

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Ah, the good old days!

You make valid points.

This is why we need to keep an eye, and pressure, on her.

If her campaign becomes a coronation she will lose.

Interesting, yes.

Unfortunately, there is no one on the “other” side capable of a “reasoned debate”.

That’s not snark - I’m dead serious. Modern conservatism is a collection of cranks, creeps, and nuts. I’m always amazed when they can complete a sentence; a “debate” is really out of the question.

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