Discussion for article #227840
How does she square this rhetoric with by saying we need to stop beating up on Wall Street? What is she going to do about the tax incentives for jobs to be moved overseas?
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I’d be really, really happy if this was the message–but the other shoe waiting to drop is foreign policy. THAT is where she makes me most nervous (yes, yes, “better than any GOP candidate,” etc, etc–take that as read).
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She’s right—beating up on Wall Street accomplishes nothing of substance.
We need to change how Wall Street is regulated and what its position in the larger economy is.
Neither of those things can be accomplished by beating up on those who work in Wall Street.
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I kept thinking Elizabeth Warren, Hillary sounds like Elizabeth Warren. (and I love Elizabeth Warren)
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If Hillary is going to sound like someone, Warren is a great choice.
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I don’t think this is coming from Hillary Clinton’s heart. I think she’s striking this populist tone because she feels like she has to in order to succeed politically in this environment.
And I love that. I’d much rather have a political follower doing what I want because the state of politics means it is in her interest to do so, than a true believer fighting on principle for what I want against all odds.
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There are some pretty major differences between the two. Not that Liz is perfect ( or running, even), but they certainly ain’t two peas in a pod. Hillary is fully behind the TPP, NAFTA on steroids, just for starters.
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And where is the proof to support your highly-biased personal opinion?
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Off topic, hey Josh, where is your climate march coverage???
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There’s this thing called a “link” in my post ( those red letters) that take you to a different web page when you click on it with your mouse. Hope that helps.
Within the populist Democratic movement, there is a rising tide against once-popular trade deals connecting the U.S. with foreign lands. Clinton has been involved with many of the pacts from her time as first lady, in the Senate and finally, as part of the Obama administration.
Clinton saw herself in the middle of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) during her husband’s presidency. She supported deals with Oman, Chile and Singapore during her tenure in the Senate. As secretary of State, she was a chief advocate as talks commenced surrounding the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), one of the largest worldwide deals in recent history.
Many proponents of the agreements argue that negotiations need to take place in secret in order to protect the fragile interests of participating countries. This has not sat well with public interest groups and more liberal members of the Democratic Party, including Warren.
Last year, she went to far as to vote against Obama’s then-nominee for the head of the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, Michael Froman, because of that lack of transparency as the 10 countries involved in the TPP discuss terms.
They did a quick piece mentioning the “thousands” of people.
Obviously an important topic here.
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All of that is in the past, and does not necessarily reflect her current positions.
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You’re wasting your time trying to talk sense to UFG when it comes to Hillary, it’ll only serve to amp him up.
Too bad that we’re going to have to put up with this noise for the next two years. We could at least focus on 2014 and get these elections out of the way.
Let’s not get taken sideways by issues others have with HRC.
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LOL! Look forward, I know! I am sure she has totally renounced her position since then. Right.
Here’s some more:
“Free Trade” Advocates Convene at Clinton Global Initiative
Echoing promises of lowered trade barriers, improved labor conditions and environmental protections made by NAFTA advocates two decades earlier, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Hanoi, Viet Nam in 2012 promoted the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the most far-reaching trade agreement ever, encompassing 12 Pacific Rim countries. Secretary Clinton stated support for free expression online, and pronounced, “Democracy and prosperity go hand-in-hand,” even as the backroom dealings of hundreds of corporate lobbyists have engaged in writing the TPP to challenge everything from Net Neutrality to democratic process and state sovereignty. An amplification of NAFTA provisions, leaked segments of the secretive treaty reveal that wholesale powers granted by the TPP to corporations would permit them to sue governments for alleged lost profits in special international tribunals that bypass the U.S. court system, and to advocate overturn of regulatory laws intended to protect people and the environment.
As the Clinton Global Initiative convenes in Denver June 23-25, it brings together some of the same financial hard-hitters who cheerleaded NAFTA into being, and seek to do the same for the TPP. Among them, Robert Rubin, chief economic advisor to the Clinton White House, is listed as a participant in a panel discussion “Exploring what it will take for the U.S. to retain a position of global economic leadership in an increasingly complex world.”
If, by “talking sense”, you mean papering over her actual beliefs and policy positions.
Does your browser have this thingy called a “search bar”
Do you know what it’s for?
Here’s what you’ll find if you type in “NYC Climate March”
Right. That’s why I support Liz Warren over Clinton.
Cuz I hate teh wimmenz.
I think you might have to try again with a different smear tactic.
“Nobody’s noticed” that 12 year-old bottle of A-1 steak sauce in the refrigerator, either. It’s always been there, nobody uses it, and that new recipe for chimichurri took its place.
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