Discussion: Gorsuch Comments Preview Endgame If Citizenship Question Is Added To Census

Until this point I thought the country needed another LBJ. These assholes make me think we need a Lenin.

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The end game of Kris Kobach, Steve Bannon, and other alt right white nationalists are to allow states to use undercounts in the census to not only deprive cities and suburbs of federally allocated funds, but to diminish congressional representation.

Such a strategy further empowers rural areas, and continues minority rule. In effect, it’s part of a decades long strategy to keep America ruled by the GOP, no matter how much they are in a minority.

The current radical right wing Supreme Court majority will only get worse. They don’t care about the Constitution, the rule of law, or facilitating the right to vote. Facts just don’t convince them. Only their radical right wing ideology matters.

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I with TPM and the rest of the media would stop with the bold face lies contained in the following:

“But his conservative allies, Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Samuel Alito,”

Thomas and Alito are NOT Gorsuch conservative allies as none of them are conservative. Rather, Thomas and Alito are Gorsuch REPUBLICAN allies who don’t give a care about any theory or even the constitution but always use, misuse actually, their power based on what is good for the Republican party and the rest of the nation be damned.

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They won’t be happy until only rich white men can vote.

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Trump and the Supreme Court are making sure that that outcome doesn’t happen again anytime soon. And the Ruskies will provide their uncoordinated help.

No Mueller or court is going to save American Democracy. Impeachment is not going to happen. The French have ways to ensure that they rulers behave, these days involve yellow vest.

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But we can always add a few Justices, impeach and convict Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, and every other judge appointed by Trump/McConnell, and fix a lot of things.

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Convicting will be hard. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try over and over though.

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That’s the spirit…

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Sadly, this is exactly what the GOPers want! They want to kill the true spirit of America!

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Except with this court. Then it’s easy.

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The Census Bureau recently stated that forms which are not fully answered will still count

Never happening. The past 4 years are game over. And now they’re moving to make it so red states can essentially cheat in order to give themselves even more outsized influence over our government and the rest of the nation by literally pretending people they don’t like don’t exist and don’t deserve representation. There is absolutely NO REASON WHATSOEVER for blue states to remain part of this country. We are, at this point, quickly becoming nothing but slave states in service to the red states, producing the majority of the wealth, jobs and national product while being forced to hand it to the red states and spend it the way they want.

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[quote=“nobiru, post:8, topic:87172, full:true”]Perhaps if the Trumpistas are defeated in 2020, a supplemental census in 2022 or so could “correct” the deficiency in the count.
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The right wing would immediately sue arguing that this violates the “once in ten years” constitutional provision and the right wing activists in robes would trip over themselves in voting to shut down the attempt.

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But if we take the senate we may have a couple of extra judges by then.

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Sounds like a strategy. Get aggressive messaging going to tell people not to answer the question. I won’t answer it, and I will tell all my friends, relatives and coworkers not to answer it.

Possibly, but you are then betting on a much longer shot.

I think that there are more than sufficient grounds to remove Thomas, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh from the bench through impeachment (its in the Constitution!), and if that cannot be done I am all behind expanding the SCOTUS if that is feasible (and also as part of it abolishing lifetime tenure for all Federal judges). But lets not kid ourselves - that will be a stretch.

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One way to threaten to send ICE to visit every person who doesn’t answer that they are a citizen…

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Texas is hosed.

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we are fucked

I don’t believe the text prevents more frequent census-taking: “…and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.” I read that as an “at least once” every 10 years, which could allow for additional polling should the government determine it to be in the nation’s best interest.

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