Discussion for article #230002
Hey Got Obsessive Paranoia, if you don’t trust hispanic voters, why should they trust you? just sayin’
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The GOP likes to talk about reaching out to Latino voters but when it comes down to it they would rather deny the vote to anyone who does not vote Republican.
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Teatroll Outreach! Reaching out to snatch your ballot right from your fingers!
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TPM reporter Dan Strauss has decided McSally is a “GOPer”. To me that reads Tea Party Tin Hat Brigade. BUT McSally is anything but a fringe candidate. She is not as crazy as many in her party are and it would be unfair to paint her that way. How do I know this? Well, for one I live in Tucson and in the 2nd Congressional District which she wants to represent. Second this is, compared to many many other places in Arizona, a reasonably democratic place. Registered democrats are in a slight majority. A fringe candidate or right winger would not make it here. Historically we have elected people who are centrists. Mo Udall (D), Jim Kolbe ®, Gabby Giffords (D), and Ron Barber (D) have represented my part of Tucson over the last 45+ years that I have lived here. These people have all been moderates. Third, there’s not a lot of difference politically between Ron Barber (incumbent) and Martha McSally. In the last election it was also extremely close. I voted for Ron Barber and I worked hard to get Arizona to go for democrats.
At the moment McSally leads by 341 votes and there are 9000 provisional ballots left to count. It could go either way.
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Tucson is about 35%-40% Hispanic. A lot of those folks live in Raul Grijalva’s Congressional district (different from mine) and he won his election by a majority of 65%. There is a slim majority of registered democrats in AZ 2d Dist. where I live. The swing for the election always comes from independents who tend, locally, to make up their minds in the voting booth. There are Tea Party types here but it’s not like it is up in Phoenix. We don’t have near the number of wackos they do. Tucson and Phoenix are politically and culturally very different, thank God.
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“Martha McSally will do anything to stop Southern Arizonans from making their voice hears at the ballot box,” Barber spokeswoman Ashley Nash-Hahn told Tucson Weekly. “We’ve seen her tricks before when she tried to throw out votes in Cochise County, and we aren’t surprised to see her desperate moves to silence the voters of Southern Arizona.”
Were the situation reversed I expect I’d be reading this comment …only it would be from a McSally spokesperson
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well that way they know thats the only way to win election…oh wait theres the fearmongering, hypocracy and lieing…
Ms. McSally is a classic right-winger.
And she wholeheartedly believes in the GOP motto—“Cheat To Win, because that’s how conservatives do it.”
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This is the former district of Gabrielle Giffords. Ron Barber infuriated a lot of Democratic voters when he ran in the special election to replace her and promised that he would not run in the general election for a full term. As he was a staffer for her, a number of prominent local Democrats deferred to her wishes and did not run for the special election against Barber. After he was elected in the special election, he broke his word and decided to run, as the incumbent, for the seat. It’s not really well remembered, but Gabrielle Giffords was not really that electorally secure in her district because she was very centrist in a district that was only marginally Democratic to start with. It wasn’t a sure deal that she was going to win her reelection before she was shot. She was my congresswoman and I was there for both of Barber’s elections. He barely held off McSally the last time around and I’m not at all surprised that it is a fight again. I was more surprised that Ann Kirkpatrick managed to win the 1st District again over Paul Tobin.
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Thanks for the insight. I had not known that.
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What you say is true, Whiteboar. At the time my local state Rep.,now state Senator Steve Farley entertained the idea of running for Congress (he would make an OUTSTANDING choice in my opinion) because Barber said he only wanted to finish Gabby’s term. Steve deferred his run when Barber changed his mind and decided instead to run. I got pissed. I would still prefer that Steve Farley would some day run. I’d work my ass off for him. And being retired I have the time to invest. If McSally wins this election I think Farley may resurrect his Congressional ambitions…I hope he does.
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Nah, she’s really not. She’s smart as hell and was a combat pilot and commander of an Air Force Air Wing. I didn’t vote for her and wouldn’t ever vote for her, as she’s a Republican, but she’s really not a right wing crazy person. If she runs again in 2016, she should be a tough out again. She might be smart to change to the 1st District and try and knock Kirkpatrick out, since she’s already lost twice to Barber in the 2nd District… She’s never going to beat the other Southern Arizonan Congressman, which is Raul Grijalva. I don’t expect that this is the last time we’ll see Martha McSally in Arizona politics.
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Farley is a good one. Barber is kind of a twerp and I wouldn’t mind seeing him replaced by another Democrat, but that district has a long history of excellent representation and I don’t want it sullied by a crazy Sun City Republican.
Raul Grijalva has probably the safest seat in Arizona outside of the one in north Phoenix that is as red as red gets. Raul won this last election with something like 65% of the votes.
Raul Grijalva will have that seat until he dies or passes it on to his hand picked successor. Which is kind of a shame, in some ways. His reputation has always been somewhat unsavory and he’s been long rumored to have been, if not dirty, not especially clean, when he was on the Pima Country Board of Supervisors. I would rather have someone else in that seat, but it would take an act of God to get him out of it. I think he wanted his daughter to be his successor one day, but she got hopelessly tarnished on the TUSD school board, that I think it’s probably impossible.
Farley has a great email group he calls “friends 'O Farley” It’s is an outstanding way of learning what goes on behind the scene in the State kindergarten… er…Legislature… in Phoenix. I’m on his list. He really does seem to care what his constituents are thinking and what their needs are. When he was making his initial run for the State Senate he stopped by my home to ask for my vote and sat down to listen to what I had to say. That he did so I found very refreshing in a politician. And as far as I can tell he hasn’t yet been corrupted by politics. He’s held true to what he has espoused in his campaigns. printed matter and his emails. I’d purely love to read his emails should he become a Congressman.
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A bit of a correction here: in the last election, McSally’s campaign handpicked a group of Hispanic precincts in Cochise County (Douglas and Pirtleville) to throw out. This time, she is trying to stop the votes in Pima County regardless of precinct. Yes, Pima County is heavily Hispanic, but much of the Hispanic vote is concentrated in Raúl Grijalva’s district not in the one that she is running in. The county is, however, very Democratic.
So, she isn’t blocking this count purely on the basis of ethnicity any more, she just doesn’t want Democratic votes to count regardless of background. That’s progress.
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I have enough votes so just stop counting.
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What has any of that have to do with her trying to stop the counting of 9,000 people’s votes. If she actually thinks she won, she would want all ballots counted. She is willing to win at any cost, even by screwing the voters of her district. To me that says she is not a typical moderate but a true red GOP Tea/Partier.
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