Discussion for article #233109
Thank God the GOP isn’t anywhere near the Oval Office. Let’s keep it that way.
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The War of Senate Aggression has begun. Fire away.
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Pass a clean DHS bill and the problem goes away.
Ball is in your court GOP asshats.
Clean bill or pound sand up your ass.
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“The House has passed a bill to fund the Department of Homeland Security, and block the President’s unilateral executive action on immigration,” Michael Steel, a Boehner spokesman, said in an email. “Now, the pressure is on Senate Democrats who claim to oppose the President’s action, but are filibustering a bill to stop it. Until there is some signal from those Senate Democrats what would break their filibuster, there’s little point in additional House action.”
There is no pressure on Senate or House Democrats. Republicans are in the majority in both branches. The pressure is all their’s.
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“GOP Infighting Begins”
When did it end? These assholes would make a major argument over whether or not an invisible black cat, that wasn’t present, in a lightless room was male or female. The problem being that half of these GOPricks would claim to have “FOUND” the absent invisible cat.
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That will happen in the House with mostly Dem votes and Tea Partiers will set their hair on fire again.
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Looks like the big Pubbie landslide in Congress isn’t going well. The Pubbies had more power when they when they didn’t control the Senate. Sometimes you find out that what you wish for really isn’t what you want.
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I don’t get it. I see absolutely no political benefit for Republicans at all. A majority of Americans support Obama’s EOs on immigration. An even larger majority is going to hear “Department of Homeland Security” and think “Department of Keeping Terrorists from Killing Us”. Most Americans will hear this as “Republicans are sacrificing our security in order to force Obama to kick a bunch of Mexican children out of the country.” This battle hurts them with the general public and with the one voting bloc they most need to capture for the future. It also shores up Obama’s base, makes him appear to Latinos as the hero against the mustache-twirling Republicans who want to ship kids back to hell, and supplies the '16 Democratic candidate with an easy opening on which to pursue the Latino vote. On top of all that, it begs a negative answer to a question many pundits have been asking: Can you the GOP actually govern? So, why in the world are they doing this?
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Clearly, nothing means less than what a majority of Americans thinks. It’s only a majority of Americans that bother to vote, that means anything.
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BINGO. Which is why this is especially fun to watch. I’m not saying that I like them having both houses in Congress. However, them being there clearly shows they don’t know what the fuck they are doing. It shows they truly don’t know how to govern. It shows their big bad promises of repealing ObamaCare and stopping Pres. Obama’s executive order on immigration is falling flat on it’s face. It is also especially delicious to see them get the same treatment they gave the Democrats when they held the majority, payback plus 10% interest. And oh, I so love the infighting.
Meanwhile, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), whose demands led to the standoff, said it’s only failing because GOP leaders aren’t fighting hard enough. He said he warned from the start that this particular strategy was “designed to lose,” arguing that they should have withheld funding for the entire government and brought nominations to a halt in order to make Obama back down.
Yeah. Genius plan. Shut down the entire government to make Obama “back down”. And it would have worked had the GOP stuck to the plan and stood their ground! Oh and that tiny problem about math. And Senate procedures and all. But still…woulda worked!
And this is the same fucking clown that goes on any news show he can and pretend he did not shutdown the government last year. I don’t know if it’s him that is the sociopath, or the people that actually believe his bullshit.
Course all this could be avoided if they would actually address the problem and reform immigration - you know, like they had chided Obama for not doing. But then that would require work, something they seem to be allergic to.
I hope Cruz keeps speaking out like this, it’s very entertaining.
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Even they don’t seem to mean anything to the GOP. Sure, 2010 and 2014 turnout was abysmal, but 2016 is likely to look more like 2008 and 2012 when the Obama coalition came out in droves. And what are Republican senators in blue/purple states going to say when they have to answer to this mess? It’s like they’re only playing for the midterms, presidential election years be damned.
I know exactly what you mean. After last year’s election I was absolutely apoplectic, sick with angst and worry. Who knew this was going to be so much fun? In the short term I’m finding I’m actually enjoying this more than when Democrats were in control.
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It is the biggest article of faith among the Teabaggers that Democrats have NO convictions and are nothing but cowards so anxious for compromise that they will fold at the SLIGHTEST sign of it. Do not budge ONE inch, Not ONE.
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McCaskill is right about this: Pass (or at least debate) the immigration reform bill that passed the Senate, what, coming up on two years ago, and this all goes away. That the House refuses to do this–and they won’t because it would almost certainly pass with a coalition of moderate Republicans and Democrats voting for it–tells you where their loyalties are. But you’re right, Plucky: what they’re doing makes no political sense, apart from its appeal to a base whose sole political strategy is to be More Conservative Than Thou . . a base that grows ever smaller.
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Yes, but to the Republicans playing to their paranoid and conspiracy-obsessed base, immigrants are what Moby Dick was to Ahab.
Consider:
ISIS? Coming in through our unprotected border.
Ebola? Bunch of filthy disease-ridden immigrants.
Measles? See above.
Drugs? Seal the border.
High unemployment? It’s those illegals sneaking in and taking our jobs!
And a few years ago, when Obama in his State of the Union Address took a moment to dispel the rumor circulating through the fever swamps that illegal immigrants would be eligible for subsidized healthcare, Rep. Joe Wilson shot back, “You lie!”
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Man, that Ted Cruz is the gift that keeps on giving.
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It never ended; it’s just more pronounced and louder now.
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That is what they get when they proclaim a mandate after getting 52-53% of the vote from 37% of the electorate.
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Cruz is not impressed with McConnell any more than Rand Paul or the rest of us. Yertle the Turtle should listen to the Cuban Canadian. He’s been able to lead the House better than Boehner.
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Blah, blah, blah…Once these Pukes fail to pass a bill to fund DHS on time, as they’ve been tasked to do, all their recriminations and bullshit excuses will be dust in the wind. No one gives a shit who or why they can’t do this thing that they’ve been elected to do. All the country will know is that once again, these Republicans cannot get their shit together and do the people’s business by passing funding bills that they had plenty of time to figure out without playing their stupid little poison pill games. Simply put…they don’t know how to govern.
People are tired of their incompetency, and their blaming everyone but themselves for failing to do their job. They know what they have to do. They just won’t do it. They won’t pass a clean bill. They want to muck it up with unrelated bullshit issues over immigration. So cry me a river…I hope they fail spectacularly. Maybe that will wake up the brain-dead idiots that cry about terrorism constantly and who elected these bozos into office. They’re all yours.
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