Discussion: Given What We Know Now, Some Of The Steele Dossier's Claims Aren't So Crazy

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“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.”

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Lichtblau is a hopeless poster boy for the boneheaded media. Supposedly a crack investigative reporter, he focused on the Clinton email ‘scandal’ and poo-poohed the Russian stuff, trotting out the leaks from his devoted Republican sources in the FBI. If there are anti-Pulitzers to be handed out for horrible and damaging journalism, he would be on any shortlist.

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Some?

I thought pretty much all of it was verified by now.

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Most of Steele checks out. One other item: the pee pee tape. Trump talked to Comey about it. He was afraid of it. Kept making references to “Russian Hookers” in their first meeting. Who does that except a guilty person? Trump seemed to concede that a pee pee tape or other kompromat focused on sexual depravity may well exist.

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Comey was too polite to repeat that Trump kept on denying meeting with “underage hookers”.

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What if they were underage but not hookers?

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It’s to the point where I really think we need to know.

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I think one problem with this overall election conspiracy story–(no offense, Sam)-- is that even though there was clear interference by the Russians, the effect was on the margins. Now the margins are important, but the clear responsibility for Trump’s win is the large number of voters, assisted by the media, who lifted him into office, plus the 45% who didn’t bother to vote. That’s what is most disturbing. We, collectively, simply dismissed a perfectly qualified candidate for an incompetent buffoon.

So even if the Trump regime is driven from office, what we’ve got to come to grips with in America is, is… I’m at a loss now. How do we succinctly put a finger on what ails our land?

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Given that the same day Mother Jones wrote about this and we learned this Spring that the Steele Dossier was well circulated in D.C. summer 2016 this will hopefully live long in J-classes as example of journalistic fluffing of a source, the FBI in this case. Someone was a Deep Throat…

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In my opinion it’s the result of 50 years of intensive research into how to confuse people and get them to ignore facts. This started earlier (with the asbestos industry, for example, where owners knew of the risks 100 years ago —and ancient Greeks knew of the risk also, by the way!), but was honed to a fine art by the tobacco industry.
People have been trained not to believe their lying eyes, and there’s no easy way back.

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IF you’re talking the margins he won by in 3 states, that was too convenient by half and they are what ended up being responsible for the EC win so if you mean it’s all on the edges - no it isn’t. It’s front and center.

And as for what ails us - nothing ails the majority of us; we elected Hillary by quite a margin.

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My two are tribalism and fear.

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Don’t forget that Preshitident Anusmouth-Putindickholster visited CIA Headquarters within hours of taking the oath of office to point out that He had just been appointed by Electoral College, had some people come for his inauguration and then go on to threaten the CIA with dire consequences unless they kept their mouth shut. That was a weird moment.

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I agree with everything you wrote, clear through the final sentence, except in the context of this article where it’s kind of a non-sequitur. It’s a bit like stating (correctly to a good degree) that all environmental problems stem from overpopulation. That’s the BIG problem. True. But then do we cease to concern ourselves with VW cheating on diesel emissions? Do we stop worrying about specific species extinction threats?
I mean, there’s the Big picture, and then there are lots of smaller sub-pictures.

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The vote was rigged in at least 39 states. Whether these 39 states count as the margins, I don’t know.

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Yes it was. It was one of the weirdest moments in a very weird inauguration period.

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They are not hookers if you don’t pay them!

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But… what if you write them a check off the corporate account and have the corporation declare Chapter 11 before the check clears?

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