Ok, - so we’re either in or headed very shortly for a constitutional crisis. Rump and whatever’s left of the regime say that a POTUS can do whatever they want. Even if it’s aiding and abetting a foreign country to interfere in our elections or continuing to commit outright money laundering while in office.
Seems to me this is headed straight for SCOTUS. The usual gang of scum on the bench will agree with the regime but I actually doubt that Roberts would be on board with this.
Guili, just told the whole story! TRUMP IS A CROOKED potus!
The White House hasn’t told us that Trumpp doesn’t make a habit of the monkey trick, so…
I think a constitutional crisis would require that the two opposing positions be plausible, which is clearly not the case here. So maybe a constitutional paper-cut.
Presidents have been outside the law since Ford pardoned Nixon. President Obama steadfastly refused to prosecute Bush and Cheney for their crimes, and asserted the right of the President to kill American citizens in secret without judicial review. He even maintained a top-secret “Kill List.”
When the executive asserts the right to kill citizens in secret without any due process or judicial review, you can be certain that the citizens are living in a police state.
Which we are.
Of course Trump can pardon himself. Who is going to stop him?
Tutti frutti all the rooti?
Headline image is amazing.
Yeoman’s work, TPM staff.
Is this a Catch 22 moment?
Doesn’t there have to be some type of process to get to the point of a pardon… like commit some act, be charged, stand trial/inquisition, deliberation, sentencing?
If Trump were to pardon himself he could not accept the pardon. Accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt!
In one fell swoop he would be saying I pardon myself even though I am guilty of the offense.
Ouch! My head hurts.
Well, I probably spent too many years watching Perry Mason as a kid, but I always thought a lawyer was supposed to get his client off the hook, not hang him on it.
But, hey. With modern computer technology, it should be a snap to keep track of all those lies. Surely.
Rudy is probably a senile idiot…
No wait, that is the one thing for sure in this equation
Tutti Frutti, AW, RUDY!
“I don’t know, and Jay [Sekulow] would have to answer that,” Giulinai said. “But I’ve talked to him about it. I think Jay was wrong.”
Can a lawyer representing the Micturition Candidate (POTUS) lie on behalf of his client?
Simple question.
Seems that between Sekulow and Ghoulani they have that ground covered beyond expressing mere speculation but in making flat-out declarative statements regarding tRump. Is that legal and not simply a matter for ethical consideration?
With enough cynicism, one can appear psychic regarding the GOP.
My cynicism psychic gift tells me that Jared and Ivanka have multiple sets of White House cutlery in one of their private residences.
“It would be an open question,” Giuliani said. “I think it would probably get answered by, gosh, that’s what the Constitution says, and if you want to change it, change it, but yeah.”
WTF does this even mean?
Re: Roberts, I would bet boatloads of money. Huge, classy boatloads, loads of the biggest boats you’ve ever seen, believe me.
There are plausible, grounded legal arguments with which I wholly and fundamentally disagree… and then there’s this. 9-0 wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.
No, stupid. You can’t pardon yourself.
Bearing in mind that the 20 pager was issued by the previous “Crack team” of lawyers .
Incompetence on so many levels
Sarah Sanders: Mr. Acosta, how can you possibly expect me to answer a question about President Trump and his legal team’s blatant shredding of US constitutional law when Samantha Bee called little Ivanka the ‘C’ word!!!
He’s blathering.
Also, too, it should be an impeachable offense to even let Rudy Giuliani represent you in a legal or PR position at this point.
Gramps is gone, kids. Take away his keys. I know he looks like gramps, talks like gramps sometimes, but he’s gone. There’s no “there” there.
Sad.
Tutti Fruttie Rudi?