Discussion: Giuliani Says Trump Tower Meeting Was For 'Getting Information About Clinton'

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I canā€™t believe Trump doesnā€™t have him doing the daily briefings. He makes Sarah look like an amateur.

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ā€œTruth is truth,ā€ Todd responded, exasperated.

ā€œNo it isnā€™t truth! Truth isnā€™t truth!ā€ Giuliani said.

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I would very much like to know what TF is going on with TPM readers who can see HERE that Rudy is lying or making up stuff, but somehow think Rudy is telling the truth on McGahn.

What are TMP readers so freaking DUMB?

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What a voice! Gone much too soon.

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Why does this clown Giuliani get so much coverage and air time? He is clearly little more than a very befuddled old man who deserves to be put out to pasture.

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I watched this live today and had to toss out my burned bacon. Had only a banana for breakfast, couldnā€™t get anything to stay down.

Iā€™m still sputtering, snorting and have the occasional guffaw outburst two hours later.

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Donald Trump says I didnā€™t talk about Flynn with Comey. Comey says you did talk about. So tell me what the truth is!

Oooh, ooh! Call on me! I know the answer!!!

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ā€™Truth Isnā€™t Truth!ā€™ Giuliani Asserts

Well now that certainly is a novel legal defense.

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Iā€™m longing for the good old days when the sky was blue, water was wet and the truth was the truth.

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Oh dear! Are you feeling ok? Rudy TV is quite toxic, so take care.

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Well what more needs be said?

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A two-fur:

(1) Giuliani admits that his client the PUSA-grabber, engaged in attempted conspiracy to (a) accept valuable support from a hostile foreign government, and (b) encourage that foreign government to take further illegal acts to support Trump, including by illegal means, with the candidate expressing a willingness to conspire in those illegal acts in furtherance of their joint aims.

(2) Giuliani shows that he is a horrible age addled liar, who will say anything to the point of self-parody to try to spin Trumpā€™s bad behavior.

Guiliani has become a meme. ā€œTruth isnā€™t truth!ā€

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No worries, @sooner is tough. He can handle it.

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No cracked ribs yet, iā€™ll be fine.

You just never know what manner of bat shit crazy will crawl outta Rudyā€™s facial orifice.

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Be careful of hot coffee then. :wink:

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Hard to spin in a vise

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So how would Giuliani, trial lawyer extraordinaire, instruct a jury to evaluate testimony from a witness who proclaims ā€œI Swear to tell the truth, the Whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth, So Help Me Godā€?

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Enough with this demented fool.

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The initial dangle:

ā€œThe Crown prosecutor of Russia ā€¦ offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its governmentā€™s support for Mr. Trump.ā€ ā€“ Rob Goldstone, June 3 2016

Trump Jr.'s contemporaneous response:

ā€œ[I]f itā€™s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.ā€ ā€“ Donald Trump Jr., June 3, 2016

The offer:

ā€œEmin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.ā€ ā€“ Rob Goldstone, June 7, 2016

Agreement:

ā€œGreat. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.ā€ ā€“ Donald Trump, Jr., June 7, 2016

Overt act undertaken in furtherance of agreement:
Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort meet with Russians, June 9, 2016

Guiliani rewrites history:

ā€œYou, you told me, you, you asked me, you know, did they show an intention to do anything with Russians? Well, all they knew is that a woman with a Russian name wanted to meet with them. They didnā€™t know she was a representative of the Russian government and indeed, sheā€™s not a representative of the Russian government. So, this is much ado about nothing.ā€ ā€“ Rudy Guiliani, August 19, 2018

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