Discussion: Gallup: Pro-Obamacare States See Bigger Drop In Uninsured Rate

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Biggest surprise ever…who would have ever imagined that offering affordable health insurance would result in the uninsured signing-up for it.

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Yet another right-wing talking point bites the dust.

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Wow! States that try to get people insurance have more people insured than states that actively try to block people from getting insurance! Who’lda thunk it?

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No shit?

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In other news states with more water have less thirst…

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Though they did cite the data correctly in the full segment, I was disappointed to hear NPR introduce this news yesterday by saying states that had expanded Medicaid and established an exchange had seen dramatic drops in the number of uninsured whereas states that did not had experienced “the opposite.”

Last I knew, the opposite would have meant uninsured rates increased in the latter states, which is of course untrue.

While it is no surprise rates dropped faster in states embracing all the provisions, it is nevertheless important to note rates dropped across the board as a result of the ACA - Obamacare.

If NPR can’t manage to convey the facts clearly, I can only imagine how Fox addressed the matter. Actually, I take that back … no doubt they greeted the news with a chorus of crickets.

I love you Barack Hussein Obama. Thank you on behalf of all of the formerly uninsured for having the vision and the fortitude to get this done despite the cries of the rwnjs who hate you and the fauxgressives who thought you sold out. This is a good start.

P. S, I love that grin on the president.

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I’m not surprised at all. I don’t see them as speaking truth to power

That this is new is quite surprising. Expanding Medicare could not have been expected to raise the percentage of uninsured now would it?

What I’d be interested in seeing would be an article comparing this drop in uninsured to an equivalent number of states who did not accept expanded Medicare and their corresponding level of uninsured. Did they increase or decrease?

Uninsured rate numbers dropped in States that offer “free” healthcare, as in Expanded Medicaid? Oh snap, you don’t say!

Nope. They’ll keep saying it. Now it becomes a zombie lie.

If only the hard-core red-state governors (Ricky, McCrory, Bryant et al) would take these statistics to heart and make some changes for the good of their states, but that would mean actually caring about their constituents and they hate most of them too much to do that.

Gee, I don’t envy your reveling in negativity. First of all, most of us are happy that more people are insured so that they are likely to stay healthier. Second, this will ultimately lower costs to taxpayers who won’t be subsidizing so many citizens at the emergency room (the most expensive health care). Third, even if the “other party” received credit, I could acknowledge the value of something that helped people. Sad to be you.

Sweetums it isn’t free.

Is it painful being dumb enough to post that drivel?

Well then Obama should be impeached for this.

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I’m not reveling in negativity, just stating the obvious. If a billionaire gives away his riches to the town poor, obviously the town poor rate will go down. If we give free healthcare insurance to the uninsured, the uninsured rate will go down. That’s all.

If we give free healthcare insurance to the uninsured, the uninsured rate will go down. That’s all.

Your parroting a Mr. Idiot talking point from the Grand Old Ignoramus Tea Party. No one respects your argument when your “facts” are transparently erroneous.

Whatever you might have heard on Fox, they are not giving free healthcare.

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This article is in need of some editing. Statistics are already hard enough to absorb without conflating “percent” and “percentage points”. In one case the article understates the actual gain, and in another provides mis-matching numbers.

Arkansas led the pack with a 10.1 percent drop in its uninsured rate from 2013 to midyear 2014

That is not correct. Arkansas went from 22.5% uninsured to 12.4%, which is either a 10.1 percentage point drop, or a 44.8 percent drop (assuming the population did not change).

Overall, the uninsured rate in states that both expanded Medicaid and participated in setting up their exchange saw a 4 percentage point drop in their uninsured rate (16.1 percent to 2.1 percent)...

Here the correct phrase - percentage point drop - is used, but the 2.1 number must be a typo. I can’t credit the idea that the starting uninsured rate was only 6.1%, nor do I think the drop was 14 percentage points. So the 2.1 has to be wrong.

We pride ourselves on basing our arguments on verifiable facts. When those facts can be expressed as numbers, we really should try to get the numbers correct.