Discussion for article #228327
She was going for his gun, she moved in a threatening manner, his life was in danger, her actions were menacing, yadayadayada.
Maybe they will test her for marajuana and a super secret police source will reveal the results.
Glad it was taped Otherwise theyâd charge her resisting arrest and obstructing justice. She was leaving and didnât interfere at all. Assholes.
Donât forget that theyâll post unflattering pictures of her drinking and smoking 30 years ago. If they canât find some, they can just pull any black womanâs photo and the RW blogs will run with it.
AND post pics of the innocent officer with a battered eye socket and say that she attacked him with the intent to kill.
Unfortunately you are right; itâs a damn good thing there is video. They would have indeed made the claim that she was obstructing justice - as he did in the repot - and no one would have questioned it, blinked and eye and it would have been taken as the unvarnished truth.
In the video, Mahan is seen walking past two police cars toward the woman, Viola YoungâŚA released police report said that Mahan said Young and another man were yelling at officers.
So is Young a woman or a man?
When Mahan told people to step back, the man complied, according to the report, but Young did notâŚYoung âyanked awayâ according to the report and walked away âin an attempt to defeat her lawful arrestâ which prompted Mahan to use his stun gun.
So she was complying after all with his order to step back when he tased her.
Hair nets and peppermints are the new hoodies and Skittles.
Related, breaking news: âBreaking News: Michael Dunn convicted of first-degree murder in Jordan Davisâ deathâ (the âloud musicâ case)
Over the past 15 years or so, police have killed about a person a week in the U.S. using this ânon-lethalâ technology. Youâd think that sort of thing would get reported more often. Given that Tasers are lethal, youâd think the police would exercise restraint before using them. Then again, they donât do that much with guns, either, so I guess itâs a waste of time to ponder that.
Guilty of asking cop a question. Never got close enough to interfere with anything, but did not scurry away quickly enough on command. Thatâs Contempt of Cop, punishable by summary tasing, at minimum. Police have been taught to fear citizens and to behave like an occupying army, but they lack the discipline to do that correctly.
Tasers are dangerous weapons. Police men are not medical personnel; they canât diagnose health problems that that would dangerously contra-indicate electrocution.
I have also wondered about another taser health issu:, perhaps you can answer this.
Doesnât the point penetrate the body? Are the points cleaned between uses? I canât imagine that a copâs fingers or gloves are sanitary when the device id untangled and reloaded.
I still think the charges the victim gets nailed with are worse than the physical assault they endured.
The charges cost jail time, loss of a job, a record, a fine that is often unpayable if poor, etc.
Note to Daniel Straussâ
There is no such verb as âtased.â
The police used a Taserâyou could stretch this to say she was âtasered,â but you should say the police used a Taser against the woman, or some similar construct.
Good English matters, Danielâand I speak as a former reporter whose editor would have flayed me alive for writing what you wrote.
I just watched the video which is quite different than the printed account.
- Itâs quite bright for an âeveningâ confrontation.
- If the police were responding to âdrug dealsâ, with initially 3 cruisers (later 6), they seemed very nonchalant about the arrests.
- The man on the porch filming the episode remarks that the police arrested a boy and a girl for walking on the (one car width) residential street with no sidewalks. An officer is heard talking to the arrested boy about walking in the street.
- Ms. Young walks past the cruiser with the arrested boy, says nothing audible to the officer standing by it and keeps on walking. He says something (unclear on the audio) to her after she walked past. There is no âother manâ with her.
- Officer Mahan leaves his cruiser further down the street, walks quickly by the original car and officer chasing down Ms. Young, who is about 50â away up the street by this time. Itâs hard to tell whether Mahan said anything to her as he approached from her rear, but clearly she did not âyank awayâ from either officer.
- When Mahan gets within 6â-8â of Ms. Young, he tases her in the back. Other officers then rush to where she lies in the street. A black officer (the only one seen) positions himself in the street between the video man on his porch to keep anyone from approaching the downed Ms. Young much further up the street.
I really doubt that such an incident would happen this way except in a black neighborhood. The only violent behavior was the tasing; there wasnât even shouting from the residents.
Thank goodness for this video. Every potential victim of assault, whether by police or others should always carry a smart phone and know how to quickly start the camera mode.
I saw no yankingâŚalthough I did see him make a grab at her and miss. The only yanking involved here is this trigger-happy bigot pig yanking our chain.
There was no self defense involved here, just self-righteous defense.
The winds are changing
Trying to ask a police officer to explain himself is an arrest able offense obviously
This whole resisting arrest needs to be codified for police so that they know when they can legally use it. It seems like they use it all the time when things donât go they way the police want it to go.
If the police arrest someone on âresisting arrestâ and then let them go without charges, the officer who made the arrest needs to explain in detail as to why they really made a false arrest.
The state of the police force in general is what I would consider âout of controlâ and in need of some serious intervention. We are all criminals (or maybe just people with skin color other than white), we are all considered dangerous until incapacitated and by god we had better respect their authority otherwise whatever sadistic punishment they deemed appropriate, we had it coming.
Agreed. Encounters with police are a LOT more expensive for poor people. The punishment tends to go on and on.