Discussion: Fiorina: 'The Fact Checkers Are Correct' About What I Said At The Debate (VIDEO)

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So, you are right on the number? – Seriously, though, I have to question that 92% of all the jobs lost were only jobs women occupied. That said, so the “number” was correct but YOU get to decide the particulars … like they all happened because of Obama policies? You are full of yourself and so fucking deluded.

Edit: I misread the article. I understand now that Fiorina is saying that she lied. Fact checkers are correct again.

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Shorter lieCarly: “It’s the libruls’ fault I lied in the last debate. Let’s move on…”

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Carly: “If you don’t like that lie, try this one.” Carly doesn’t really have anything to say if you limit her to facts.

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There is a reason I refer to her as Car-LIE LIE-orina.

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TPM, a better–and truer–headline would be: “Fiorina: ‘Fact Checkers are Correct. I Lied.’”

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“I misspoke.”
“Wait…I didn’t misspeak; I spoke inartfully.”
“Wait…I didn’t speak inartfully; I was taken out of context.”
“Wait…I wasn’t taken out of context I… oh, never mind.”

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“But this is what the liberal media always does, it attacks the messenger liar trying to avoid the message listening to lies.”

Fixed it for ya, Car-LIE!

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"But this is what the liberal media always does, it attacks the messenger trying to avoid the message."

Fact checkers are now the “liberal media”. Keep flaying that dead horse, Fiorina and GOP. Y’ll are constitutionally incapable of taking responsibility on ANYTHING.

Is it too much to hope that the media realizes that the GOP is playing them like violins, and to refuse to go along with it any more?

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Fiorina is a natural born liar.

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Sadly, yes it is . . . .

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“But this is what the liberal media always does, it attacks the messenger trying to avoid the message”

So she stands corrected arrogantly? Remorselessly? Idiotically? I am searching for the correct adjective here.

“Misspoke” certainly does not apply because she intended to say exactly what she said.

The one skill we do not give them enough credit is the craftiness to walk back their own lies in a way that portrays themselves the victim.

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Dang Carly, how many mis-statements should the American Voters accept before they permanently discern that you are unworthy to take the office of the POTUS?

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It’s just not a common practice to check on these sorts of claims or to loudly say so if someone else checks and the claims are found to be wrong. It’s the next day, so to speak, everyone has moved on. And that’s exactly IMHO what this interesting tactic speaks to. You concede in a broad sense that you “misspoke,” but the only thing you admit to is a kind of minor accounting error hardly worth bothering with. You sure as hell don’t say, “Whoops, I made that shit up out of whole cloth and you caught me at it.” And you wait until the news cycles roll along and the whole thing blows over. We’re rapidly approaching not just a post-policy but a post-objective-reality media climate. You can say whatever the fuck you want to say and the media and public will let you get away with it if they like you. God help us all.

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“Well, in this particular case the fact checkers are correct. The 92 percent, it turns out, was the first three-and-a-half years of Barack Obama’s term, and in the final six months of his term things improve,” Fiorina said.

Wait…wut???SmileyThis makes no fucking sense.

“But this is what the liberal media always does, it attacks the messenger trying to avoid the message.”

Yes, how dare “liberal” media attack me for attacking Obama with some made up bullshit! Hrumph!

And IF Car-LIE was attacked, she deserved to be for making up those erroneous numbers and presenting them as fact. Not all the people watching are FOXNewsers; who tend to believe anything without question. .

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So it’s true that more women than men were negatively affected by an economic crisis that occurred during a Republican administration, caused by poor regulation and oversight of Wall Street. And it’s true that things finally started to improve under a Democratic president.

I’m sorry – what was her point again?

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Sadly, given their too strong desire to look “fair and balanced” the deck is stacked against truths and the reality, because everything is now treated as equivalent. I personally believe not all the opinions/views are created equal (you know what I mean?) and hence should not be treated as such. But I would be bashed by the GOP’s convenient PC police then.

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As noted over at Mother Jones, the Great Recession started in 2007, and by January 2009 the nation was hemorrhaging jobs. But soon, the economy started recovering. The job losses hit men first and much harder, but jobs also started coming back to them sooner and stronger. So, in total, in the run-up to the 2012 election when Romney first used this manufactured statistic, 5 million jobs were lost since the start of the recession, of which 1.8 million were held by women. Which is 36% not 92%.

But many of the job losses by men occurred before Obama came to office, while women were in the middle of their heaviest job losses after he was sworn in.

So the time frame if when you start counting the jobs lost to the economic crisis is what gives rise to the fraudulent claim.

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It’s the media’s fault for catching the lie. Got it. Also, too, screaming fetuses.

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Seriously, what the fuck is she talking about? She lied. She got called out. She admitted she lied but then attacked those who pointed out her lie by saying that the story her lie told was so much more important than the truth and that pointing out that fact is somehow liberal or exposes some bias?

It’s the truth. I guess Colbert was right.

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