Discussion: Ex-Reagan Staffer Who Says ACA Saved His Life Confronts Ryan At Town Hall (VIDEO)

Thank you Jeff Jeans for your humbleness and for giving praise to where it is truly due!

I love you like a brother for telling the American People and Rep Paul Ryan the TRUTH about ACA!

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They are getting ready to do things that will have catastrophic consequences for real people

The problem is that the only people that are real to them are themselves, their families (to some extent), and donors. If there are immediate benefits to that group (usually the donors), what’s not to like???

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The GOP remnants still standing pre the Trump Disaster, er administration still can’t grasp the world as it exists outside their mind bubble.

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The Tree of Liberty must constantly be fertilized by the bodies of the uninsured.

Grayson still has the clearest and cleanest description of the GOP’s preferred plan for those who rely on ACA for insurance coverage:

http://i.quoteaddicts.com/media/q4/955408.png

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Booker’s good on some stuff - but he’ll almost never go against Big $.

Agreed 100%. It took real courage to do what he did, speaking truth to power like that.

(and @mcbain, @pshah) I’ve always seen the defining difference between left and right as where someone is along the empathy continuum; the typical Republican literally can’t see a problem until it hits them or theirs. I’m convinced there’s something like an empathy gene: weak/recessive in your nice old-timey moderate GOP neighbor, and missing or even deformed in the more extreme/uglier movement-conservative types. (I’ve called the deformity the Limbaugh mutation…)

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Agreed. And the longer they wait on this - and the more Americans in the Midwest and elsewhere realize ACA = Obamacare, well, let’s just say they’d prefer to get this over and done with, and the sooner the better. Ryan et al may excel at messaging, I’ll give them that - but wait til tRump realizes Ryan, Price et al have NO replacement, despite their lovely promises. Check out Krugman today, if you get a chance - well worth it.

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Don’t forget Rubio’s amendment that deliberately screwed up the risk corridors – the cushion designed to protect the insurance companies against losses while the market matured, the companion to the requirement that they spend 80-84% on actual health care. Rubio crowed about his ā€œachievementā€ throughout the primaries; now, of course, the GOP is talking about subsidizing the insurers to protect them against losses while they figure out what the fk to do after they kill Obamacare .

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Bad optics?

This is not ā€œbad opticsā€.

This is Truth.

Like you, I’ve been banging on this door for years. Democrats are terrible at communication. Look at the bailout of the auto industry. Millions of jobs saved in the teeth of Republican opposition–and yet within 2 years those whose jobs were saved were voting for the same Republicans. National security, jobs growth, healthcare–all successes that were turned into losses. Why should voters–especially the kind who might vote Republican–give you credit for something you won’t even take credit for?

Then there’s the negative marketing. Start with gun control. It’s a basically symbolic discussion that is counterproductive every time it’s brought up. People would rather lose their jobs than their guns, at this point. Since they’re never going to take away anybody’s guns, Democrats should talk about ā€œreal gun freedomā€ and make it a campaign issue that they won’t take away a single person’s gun–except terrorists and felons. It’s a meaningless promise in practical terms but will be a disaster for Rs, who live and breathe this issue. Ds should even double down and promise to make gun confiscation from a home illegal without a warrant, unless it’s a crime scene. (Guess what? That’s already the law.)

Next: religion. Dems should make Christmas a lawful term for Christmas. Guess what? It already is a lawful term. I’m just typing this stuff, but that’s the drift of it. Just hijack the rhetorical terrain of the Rs with symbolic language that doesn’t actually adversely change a single outcome.

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Conservatives don’t do empathy.

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Ryan used SS survivor’s benefits after his Dad died to put himself through college. The man is a sociopath. If he had a near death experience and was saved by medical care that was paid for by the ACA he would just congratulate himself for being tough and surviving. To hell with anyone else.

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I forgot about the SS benefits he got. Put that down to my advancing years.

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Mr. Prosperity Jesus that people like Ryan worship is the antitheses of the Jesus in the gospels. If they were whisked back to Palestine when Jesus was teaching and criticizing the wealthy rabbis that controlled the Temple in Jerusalem they would probably consider him some unwashed rabble-rouser railing against the deserving ruling class.

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A lot of Trump supporters that were interviewed expressed their annoyance that ā€œthose peopleā€ seemed to be the main beneficiaries of government programs. Maybe because ā€œthose peopleā€ had been stomped on for centuries but, of course, that is not the point.

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They deserve it, but other people don’t because it is their own fault they are sick. Because this is the new Christianity. Hate they neighbor, love thyself and your own kind.

I am taking a class from a retired History professor, The History of the US Supreme Court. From the civil war to the 1930’s rulings were always in favor of big business and against the people. This is what the goal of these deplorables is. Repeal the last 80 or 90 years, return to the Gilded Age. I am so disgusted.

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A portion of Americans are stupid. It is embarrassing to live among these idiots who never read, believe everything the right wingers tell them. I want to sit them down and tell them to wise up. Never underestimate the American people, they never fail to disappoint me.

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Damme if I wasn’t just thinking about Masque of the Red Death yesterday.

Except I was thinking of the 1960’s Vincent Price movie, where Prospero was an evil, depraved Satan worshipper who got off on using his power to make people humiliate and degrade themselves. Specifically, the scene starting here around at 15:30. Welcome to the White House starting next week.

ā€œWe want to replace (the ACA) with something better.ā€, Ryan claimed.
All evidence to the contrary.

In the GOP-controlled Congress, dying of a chronic illness simply because your employer doesn’t provide health insurance coverage is the essence of Americana.
Point of fact: Republicans have already begun the process of dismantling the ACA.
They have no clue what might … perhaps … conceivably replace it … someday.

And in the meantime, if you suffer from a life-threatening chronic illness, or failed to have one diagnosed in a timely fashion due to lack of preventative health care checkups, the GOP response is … ā€œit surely sucks to be youā€.

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